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msanthrope

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70. That is precisely the point, and if you had YOUR facts straight, you might realize how foolishly you

Tue Dec 10, 2013, 05:03 PM

Dec 2013

have blamed Holder.

Now....rug. Let me give you some facts...

Ms. Stewart didn't like her 28 month sentence. So she appealed it, asking for non-jail time, during the BUSH ADMINISTRATION/

She BADLY miscalculated the 2nd Circuit, who were really, really tired of her shit. So her resentence included instructions to the original trial judge to include such factors as her perjury at trial, AND her public comments.

He gave her 10 years.

You know when that appeal was heard???? It was accepted in the August 2007 term. It was heard in January, 2008. It came down in November of 2009.

NOW UNLESS PRESIDENT OBAMA AND ERIC HOLDER HAD A TIME MACHINE.....they were NOT in charge of the DOJ in January, 2008.

My suggestion is that you read the appeal decision Ms. Stewart fought so hard for--she gambled, and lost.

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Lynne Stewart has cancer. Ask Eric Holder to free her from prison. [View all] Eric J in MN Dec 2013 OP

If not for commiting perjury under oath, she would be free right now hack89 Dec 2013 #1

Perjury at trial is one of the most serious offenses an attorney can msanthrope Dec 2013 #2

I agree that she should be released to die at home. nt hack89 Dec 2013 #5

Given her very public comments and fundraising, she won't be released unless it is msanthrope Dec 2013 #8

Hospice facilities rarely have beds available for lengthy periods. moriah Dec 2013 #42

Hospices vary widely--I've had relatives in for 6-9 months. Depends on the hospice. nt msanthrope Dec 2013 #44

This was Lower Cape Fear Hospice in NC. They were really good to him. moriah Dec 2013 #56

No, the judge said he lengthened the sentence for "lack of remorse." Eric J in MN Dec 2013 #3

That was one reason - perjury was another hack89 Dec 2013 #4

Her perjury at trial and her public comments indicate a lack of remorse. This was poor msanthrope Dec 2013 #6

I'm kind of wondering what the hell was she thinking? HappyMe Dec 2013 #9

Some attorneys never appreciate the fact that some of their clients, are, in fact, criminals. nt msanthrope Dec 2013 #13

she bragged she could do the original sentence while standing on her head. oops nt geek tragedy Dec 2013 #53

Very strange case....nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #7

Didn't she say iandhr Dec 2013 #10

I don't see anyone whining about leftynyc Dec 2013 #11

People call her a political prisoner. iandhr Dec 2013 #15

Just went through entire thread leftynyc Dec 2013 #25

it's in the OP hfojvt Dec 2013 #33

That's not your original claim leftynyc Dec 2013 #45

In his/her defense, Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #46

And I'm looking for any evidence leftynyc Dec 2013 #47

Here ya go. Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #49

I did not mean here. Other places. iandhr Dec 2013 #51

Right here my friend iandhr Dec 2013 #52

That's her website leftynyc Dec 2013 #57

Want more I can give you more iandhr Dec 2013 #59

If you think you're fooling anyone leftynyc Dec 2013 #61

I am liberal. I consider my self a Liz Warren type Dem. iandhr Dec 2013 #65

Many? leftynyc Dec 2013 #69

I ment of the people who say she should be released. iandhr Dec 2013 #71

So - just to sum up leftynyc Dec 2013 #76

I am not trying to fool anyone. iandhr Dec 2013 #88

LOL - like I said leftynyc Dec 2013 #95

Yes to all. Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #12

I would have compassion in a case like this... iandhr Dec 2013 #16

+1000. Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #18

Wow, that's some impressive compassion you've got there: Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #37

I said I would have compassion in 999 cases out of 1000. iandhr Dec 2013 #48

Where wiuld you draw the line? Jenoch Dec 2013 #36

Those in prison for non violent offenses. Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #39

Isn't Stewart in for a non-violent offense? Jenoch Dec 2013 #41

If it was terminal, then yes. Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #43

Bernie Madoff destroyed the lives of hundreds of people. Jenoch Dec 2013 #54

Ok. Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #55

She did nothing to you, therefore, you have no cause to allow or deny forgiveness... LanternWaste Dec 2013 #94

Think what you want of me, Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #101

She was sentenced to 28 months after trial under Bush. Resentenced to 10 years under Holder. rug Dec 2013 #14

The higher sentence probably had something to do with the statement iandhr Dec 2013 #17

Completely justifies another 8 years in federal prison. rug Dec 2013 #19

You bet it does. iandhr Dec 2013 #20

So, you think she should get 8 years for a remark and 2 years for terrorism? rug Dec 2013 #22

Without addressing this situation... jberryhill Dec 2013 #28

It is but there would first have to be a trial on the contempt charge. rug Dec 2013 #30

There is no "trial" for contempt jberryhill Dec 2013 #35

Direct criminal contempt certainly is. rug Dec 2013 #68

No I think she deserved 10 years for terrorism the remark not withstanding. iandhr Dec 2013 #50

Then the rest of the spinning doesn't matter. rug Dec 2013 #66

No. Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #21

She is in prison because the DoJ argued for 8 more years to a receptive judge. rug Dec 2013 #23

Wrong. Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #24

Ah, she asked for 8 more years after her appeal. rug Dec 2013 #26

By not shutting her fucking pie hole, Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #27

You can twist it. It was the judge who gave her 8 years for a TV interview, not Lynne Stewart. rug Dec 2013 #29

The judge gave her an xtra 8 years for her lack of remorse Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #31

And another judge might not have. rug Dec 2013 #32

I've already said that she should be released to spend the rest of her days with Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #34

Another judge might have given her the whole 30. It was the same judge on the msanthrope Dec 2013 #60

Do you know who filed and prosecuted the appeal on the sentence? rug Dec 2013 #63

Stewart filed the appeal, requesting non-jail time. She badly, and I mean, BADLY miscalculated. nt msanthrope Dec 2013 #64

Try again. rug Dec 2013 #67

Wrong--this is Stewart's appeal from 2007, appealing the 28-months.....read # 70, too.... msanthrope Dec 2013 #72

Just as soon as you answer 73. rug Dec 2013 #77

You mean where the Obama Administration asked for half the sentence the Bush Administration did? msanthrope Dec 2013 #83

"The government wanted me then, as it does now, to spend the rest of my life in prison. rug Dec 2013 #85

Yes---15 to 30 is half of what was originally asked. She got 10. Had she kept her piehole shut msanthrope Dec 2013 #89

That wouldn't have stopped the Govt from appealing the sentence. rug Dec 2013 #98

Well, yes---lying at your trial generally will convince an appellate court to resentence you. msanthrope Dec 2013 #40

You do realize that the testimony was given before the original sentence, don't you? rug Dec 2013 #62

That is precisely the point, and if you had YOUR facts straight, you might realize how foolishly you msanthrope Dec 2013 #70

She was resentenced in 2010. Hmmmm, who was the AUSA working for then? rug Dec 2013 #73

NO---she appealed the 28 months, asking for non-jail time--during the Bush msanthrope Dec 2013 #75

Do you know what a cross-appeal is? Read the caption. rug Dec 2013 #80

The transcript where Stewart notes the Obama Administration asked for half the original sentence? msanthrope Dec 2013 #84

Lol, read 85. Then read the transcript again. rug Dec 2013 #87

When are you going to explain how President Obama was in office January 2008, which you claimed msanthrope Dec 2013 #91

That wasn't the claim. The fact, not a claim is that the resentencing was done through Holder. rug Dec 2013 #97

It's the same strategy Obama used to screw up the Katrina response jberryhill Dec 2013 #74

You're right. Obviously, 9/11 was Obama's fault. nt msanthrope Dec 2013 #78

Simple question - does every dying convict get to go home? brooklynite Dec 2013 #79

Que? jberryhill Dec 2013 #81

Who was in office on July 15, 2010 whe she was resentenced to 10 years? rug Dec 2013 #82

As Ms. Stewart noted in her transcript, the same people who asked for half her original sentence.... msanthrope Dec 2013 #86

"The government wanted me then, as it does now, to spend the rest of my life in prison." rug Dec 2013 #90

What is indefensible? She got 28 months and decided to appeal. Then she got 10 years. How is the msanthrope Dec 2013 #93

You left out the government appealed to get a harsher sentence. rug Dec 2013 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #38

Your description of her crime is dishonest. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2013 #58

Ding Ding Ding iandhr Dec 2013 #92

she should have been grateful for the original sentence Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #99

Are you serious? onpatrol98 Dec 2013 #100