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Heather MC

(8,084 posts) Tue Dec 10, 2013, 11:14 PM Dec 2013

This Budget deal is Shit!!! [View all]

Paul Ryan and Co gets everything they want.
No tax increase on the takers
no Defense cuts
Unemployed not helped
Tax loopholes still wide open
Apparently this stuff is permnate in some way
And Sequestration is mildly lifted 1/3rd that's it

Military Retirement Cuts

The only good thing is that it prevents another stupid Gov Shutdown

But did I miss something, didn't we reject the Paul Ryan Budget when we voted not have him or Willard in the White House.

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This Budget deal is Shit!!! [View all] Heather MC Dec 2013 OP

Really? There was going to be another government shutdown??? The GOP could not stand another kelliekat44 Dec 2013 #1

Because we have two parties... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2013 #18

+1,000 Scuba Dec 2013 #28

+1000 abelenkpe Dec 2013 #55

Yup. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2013 #57

Anything with paul ryan's fingerprints on it is shit. calimary Dec 2013 #2

You nailed it. russspeakeasy Dec 2013 #3

Our party no longer offers any resistance to the Repukes, Doctor_J Dec 2013 #4

Except for a few social issues... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2013 #19

YOU ARE VERY WRONG. You are viewing the world through such a narrow lens. Reality please. RBInMaine Dec 2013 #32

+10000000 The differences on social issues are tactical and deliberate. woo me with science Dec 2013 #58

When we are busy fighting each other... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2013 #65

Many on this site -- in this thread! -- buy into that very illusion villager Dec 2013 #77

Not true at all. Um, remember the SHUTDOWN a couple months ago? No resistance? Where were you? RBInMaine Dec 2013 #33

Ha ha ha ha. woo me with science Dec 2013 #59

Remind me again what the proletariat got from the shutdown Doctor_J Dec 2013 #79

Probably because many in "our party" are really RepubliCons. polichick Dec 2013 #35

They are all corporatists. woo me with science Dec 2013 #60

Yeah, that's how I see it too - one party, two faces... polichick Dec 2013 #66

Another first Earth Day activist here. CrispyQ Dec 2013 #74

We've done a lot of good work, but yes, "It's time to think... polichick Dec 2013 #75

Heard about it on the way home earlier - it is TOTAL. CRAP. Triana Dec 2013 #5

Unemployment insurance will be done separately. The tax increases and elimination of loopholes RBInMaine Dec 2013 #23

Where is the evidence that UI will be done separately? former9thward Dec 2013 #54

The President and other Democrats are pushing it. Is it part of this budget? No it isn't, but it lostincalifornia Dec 2013 #78

Democratic Party Negotiating School 101. bullwinkle428 Dec 2013 #6

Did they get the cuts to social security they wanted? pnwmom Dec 2013 #7

If they did.... daleanime Dec 2013 #11

They didn't. Which is why the OP is very misleading. pnwmom Dec 2013 #16

it's a shitty deal with or without the cuts to SS. The budget numbers are Heather MC Dec 2013 #40

Which budget numbers are lower? Not the overall budget. n/t pnwmom Dec 2013 #41

I stand corrected Heather MC Dec 2013 #48

Misleading graph that should start at zero on the Y axis. JoePhilly Dec 2013 #53

Yup... SidDithers Dec 2013 #63

Same graph, with about 75% less outrage. nt JoePhilly Dec 2013 #64

Except that the bars don't correspond. Red bar should be above the 1k line, not below. Sirveri Dec 2013 #86

The final budget is $45-46 Billion between pnwmom Dec 2013 #56

No. Entitlements aren't touched* and domestic spending goes back up Recursion Dec 2013 #15

I remain wary of any deal Jamaal510 Dec 2013 #8

Heritage Foundation was mad the Government Reopen Heather MC Dec 2013 #9

Just sent her a message and Phlem Dec 2013 #10

President Obama's statement on the budget deal... PoliticAverse Dec 2013 #12

People had been predicting that this was the plan all on along on both sides of the aisle. liberal_at_heart Dec 2013 #13

I thought the plan was to cut Social Security. great white snark Dec 2013 #21

are you denying it was put on the table? DrDan Dec 2013 #22

By the prez, right? polichick Dec 2013 #38

by the prez, right DrDan Dec 2013 #39

In the spirit of "compromise" or some such bullshit. polichick Dec 2013 #67

playing around, in the name of politics, with the livelihood of millions of seniors, DrDan Dec 2013 #71

What passes as a "Democratic leader" has morphed into meaninglessness... polichick Dec 2013 #72

It's the best we can get and hope for. jsr Dec 2013 #61

AFP and Heritage hate it, which is good enough for me Recursion Dec 2013 #14

I agree. Good job, Patty Murray. n/t pnwmom Dec 2013 #17

The sequester goes away in part because all federal employees face a pay cut. eqfan592 Dec 2013 #25

Yes, we do Recursion Dec 2013 #26

The sequester on Defense cost a lot of Fed employees pay as well NutmegYankee Dec 2013 #27

As an employee that experienced the furloughs this year... eqfan592 Dec 2013 #29

It doesn't affect all federal employees SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2013 #82

you're correct. there was some bad info going around our office. nt eqfan592 Dec 2013 #83

It was bullshit then and it is bullshit now! lonestarnot Dec 2013 #20

The budget deal is about the best that could be expected with a right wing HOUSE. RBInMaine Dec 2013 #24

Strong case of xactlies here n/t gelsdorf Dec 2013 #30

It is a strong case of REALITY and TRUTH here. RBInMaine Dec 2013 #31

People didn't vote because "Dems" cut deals like this... polichick Dec 2013 #36

Hey, let's blame the victim! demwing Dec 2013 #44

+100 MineralMan Dec 2013 #51

Yes it's shit, But look at the bright side, if not for the Democrats standing up to them Autumn Dec 2013 #34

Yes, shit for us but looks pretty good for the Republicans. Little Star Dec 2013 #37

they call it bi-partisan Puzzledtraveller Dec 2013 #42

Yes, you missed this one descriptive word: OLIGARCHY mother earth Dec 2013 #43

Third Way Wall Street Corp Dems Strike Again! fredamae Dec 2013 #45

'Calling them out' does nothing to pass a budget. randome Dec 2013 #50

The Dem Give-Aways are so close to the fredamae Dec 2013 #52

In the small non-profit hospice I work for my boss was freaking out because the planned mucifer Dec 2013 #46

We need to take back the House Gothmog Dec 2013 #47

^^^ This n/t crazylikafox Dec 2013 #49

I'm starting to think there is no "we" davidthegnome Dec 2013 #62

You fix that in the primaries. jeff47 Dec 2013 #70

I think it requires far more fixing than that. davidthegnome Dec 2013 #84

Except it isn't. jeff47 Dec 2013 #87

Won't matter unless we've also taken back the party. polichick Dec 2013 #68

Tried that in 2008 Doctor_J Dec 2013 #81

"The only good thing is that it prevents another stupid Gov Shutdown" DCBob Dec 2013 #69

Looks mostly like business as usual. taught_me_patience Dec 2013 #73

It's a con game. woo me with science Dec 2013 #76

Doncha know...it is called "compromise". glinda Dec 2013 #80

When a Republican is involved it's a CONpromise upi402 Dec 2013 #85