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Motown_Johnny

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16. Renewables won't always be more expensive

Wed Dec 11, 2013, 10:21 AM

Dec 2013

So much for "real options". Switching ASAP is the only reasonable choice on that poll (even if some of the phrasing could be improved).

http://www.cleanenergyauthority.com/solar-energy-news/solar-global-grid-parity-by-2020-111513

^snip^

Solar photovoltaic installations will be cost-competitive with more traditional electricity sources by 2020, according to a report released earlier this week.

Navigant Research, a firm dedicated to researching emerging technology markets for investors, recently released its Solar PV Market Forecast. The report explores the increasing affordability of solar as well as the expiring incentives and subsidies globally.

The market has been around long enough and seen enough growth that researchers now have the data and tools to accurately forecast its growth, Navigant asserts.

“Following years of solar PV module oversupply and unsustainable, often artificially low pricing, 2013 is expected to be the year that the global solar PV market begins to stabilize,” according to the executive summary.

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Energy source Poll. please give your input. [View all] darkangel218 Dec 2013 OP

This poll doesn't provide a realistic picture of the alternatives. kristopher Dec 2013 #1

Youre right. darkangel218 Dec 2013 #3

If you gave the real options then your "poll" might be worth something intaglio Dec 2013 #2

Good points. darkangel218 Dec 2013 #4

No offence, i apreciate all the help. I wasnt born here. darkangel218 Dec 2013 #7

Renewables won't always be more expensive Motown_Johnny Dec 2013 #16

I was not saying they are intaglio Dec 2013 #25

not trying to pick a fight here.. but.... Motown_Johnny Dec 2013 #27

A poll can be skewed by not including options you do not agree with intaglio Dec 2013 #34

solar + hydrogen solarhydrocan Dec 2013 #5

Hydrogen is not an easy fuel to handle badtoworse Dec 2013 #13

the guy in the video fuels his car with it solarhydrocan Dec 2013 #14

You evidently know a lot more about it than I do badtoworse Dec 2013 #15

Electrolysis is not energy efficient. Motown_Johnny Dec 2013 #17

It costs nothing but the initial investment to produce hydrogen solarhydrocan Dec 2013 #30

If you put 100 KWh in, you get maybe 75 KWh out Motown_Johnny Dec 2013 #42

Yep, we need to switch to better more eco-friendly energy sources. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2013 #6

What about natural gas? This poll is meaningless without showing it as an option. badtoworse Dec 2013 #8

I dont agree with fracking. darkangel218 Dec 2013 #9

Very much so, but what difference does that make? badtoworse Dec 2013 #12

It may not be here to stay. Motown_Johnny Dec 2013 #18

It's highly unlikely that fracking will stop anytime soon badtoworse Dec 2013 #23

I agree, it won't be soon Motown_Johnny Dec 2013 #28

What makes you think a Democratic majority would end fracking? badtoworse Dec 2013 #29

I think that environmental and health concerns will factor in. Motown_Johnny Dec 2013 #43

I think the ".........." option provides the greater promise for sustainable energy. Puzzledtraveller Dec 2013 #10

I'm sure I won't be the only person to say this but Nuclear and Coal are not synonymous el_bryanto Dec 2013 #11

We defenitly can and should use less energy. darkangel218 Dec 2013 #21

I have a 1310 sq ft house for just me and my gf... Javaman Dec 2013 #19

+1 million darkangel218 Dec 2013 #20

You have a very long way to go to replace 86.15 out of 95.1 Quads of annual usage. FarCenter Dec 2013 #22

We could try solarhydrocan Dec 2013 #31

US total electrical generation currently is over 1000 GW, about 30 times German solar. FarCenter Dec 2013 #32

size of land in sq miles of US: 3,536,290 solarhydrocan Dec 2013 #36

I'm fine with thinking outside the box -- I've done a lot of it in my career. FarCenter Dec 2013 #44

Bad Poll, where is the option to invest 100 billion into FUSION POWER! snooper2 Dec 2013 #24

I don't care for this poll. Laelth Dec 2013 #26

In the future, I'm sure fusion will pick up sakabatou Dec 2013 #33

I voted for blank Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #35

You are tempting me BainsBane Dec 2013 #37

You do know the rule, though Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #38

Since you insist BainsBane Dec 2013 #39

Harumph Harumph Harumph Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #40

That's over my head anyway BainsBane Dec 2013 #41