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pitohui

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12. i'm glad being an organ donor is guaranteed to cost you nothing
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 05:24 PM
Mar 2012

i did without health insurance for 15 years, i know from personal experience that more care DOES go to the people with money, so there is no use in telling me stories about how you think it otherwise (and you offer no proof that the rich don't go first just your assertion without evidence or any cite from a disinterested party) -- fact is, money does buy better care, and better care does make it more likely that you'll be rated strong enough to undergo procedures, where is the hole in the logic here?

i don't criticize people who want to donate organs, but nor do i feel any special inclination to criticize those who don't -- i wonder how many of those 3 out of 4 who don't care to be organ donors are underprivileged or have other damn good reasons to be suspicious of the system

as for the claim that there is no charge to the family after the plug is pulled, i would say that's an easy claim for you to make, the bill won't go to the invisible wraith on the internet if you're wrong, the bill goes to my survivors at the time they can afford it the least so forgive me if i don't take your word for it, i have to believe what everybody IRL tells me, which is that they'll bill your family and your insurance for every little thing they can dream up, from $130 aspirins until the bill is over six figures! and the final day is the most expensive by many thousands of dollars! it's insane!!!

if organ donors had a complete forgiveness of their final hospital bill you'd see plenty of us older folks signing up, that's for sure, but instead big medicine wants to play on guilt and grab something for nothing, screw that

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i too am a donor. easy decision. Robeysays Mar 2012 #1
Agreed. Why would anyone NOT be an organ donor? 11 Bravo Mar 2012 #2
How do you know? Deep13 Mar 2012 #3
I worry about this also. Logical Mar 2012 #4
They have to move quickly nobodyspecial Mar 2012 #15
Yeah, he died in perfect health 13 years ago. Deep13 Mar 2012 #24
My guess is the doctor told the transplant team the truth nobodyspecial Mar 2012 #46
We knew he want to be an organ donor... Deep13 Mar 2012 #53
I know how hard that moment is for your family w8liftinglady Mar 2012 #54
Because they're different doctors jeff47 Mar 2012 #18
I know that, but they are all collegues who work with each other regularly... Deep13 Mar 2012 #25
There are very few transplant teams in the country Sgent Mar 2012 #36
Exactly. I just posted about my sisters very, very recent experience with transplants downthread. riderinthestorm Mar 2012 #42
The organ recipient is also a stranger jeff47 Mar 2012 #45
One reason I know is because I'm not paranoid. TheWraith Mar 2012 #30
My sister just received a kidney and a liver via the transplant program at CPMC in San Francisco riderinthestorm Mar 2012 #41
After this therefore because of this...? LanternWaste Mar 2012 #58
also an organ donor Voice for Peace Mar 2012 #5
that would make you a Republican, would it not? dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #22
I have a friend who thinks the opposite thesquanderer Mar 2012 #56
people used to sit with the dead unembalmed body for two days or so, until Voice for Peace Mar 2012 #57
I have cared for both organ donors and recipients w8liftinglady Mar 2012 #6
Thank you for your insight nobodyspecial Mar 2012 #16
I doubt a lot of people even take the time Rex Mar 2012 #7
I didn't like that article either and posted a link to the actual guidelines. But your... Poll_Blind Mar 2012 #8
Yeah, David Crosby got one,too. w8liftinglady Mar 2012 #10
Exactly. Gemini Cat Mar 2012 #13
They must have insurance. Texasgal Mar 2012 #38
Good point... PNHP made a comment on this w8liftinglady Mar 2012 #44
Organ donor here, too frazzled Mar 2012 #9
I'm a donor Politicalboi Mar 2012 #11
What you do on your driver's license really doesn't matter jeff47 Mar 2012 #19
But at least your driver's license is half price. RebelOne Mar 2012 #21
That's actually how they do it in parts of Europe. TheWraith Mar 2012 #28
i'm glad being an organ donor is guaranteed to cost you nothing pitohui Mar 2012 #12
There's so much wrong with your post I don't know where to begin. TheWraith Mar 2012 #29
The organ may be "free" Texasgal Mar 2012 #37
I'm a donor LadyHawkAZ Mar 2012 #14
Reminds me of a movie "Never Let Me Go" RiffRandell Mar 2012 #17
I think some people don't donate organs because they fear they will anger their god. nt ZombieHorde Mar 2012 #20
That's quite a premise you've place your faith in... LanternWaste Mar 2012 #59
Truth is, most religions actually strongly favor organ donation. TheWraith Mar 2012 #62
I don't see how that condradicts what I wrote. nt ZombieHorde Mar 2012 #66
Did I say it contradicted anything? TheWraith Mar 2012 #67
Where I live, that is what the phrase, "truth is..," usually means. ZombieHorde Mar 2012 #69
I like to think that part of me is still alive after I've passed Demonaut Mar 2012 #23
Agree Completely. Make sure family knows your wishes. Hoyt Mar 2012 #26
Someone get me the percentage of doctors who are organ donors. Iggo Mar 2012 #27
The only physicians I know Sgent Mar 2012 #39
The only problem I have with it... YellowRubberDuckie Mar 2012 #31
Organ transplants are not a profit center. TheWraith Mar 2012 #33
You know they are making up for it somewhere. YellowRubberDuckie Mar 2012 #63
I'm signed up for cryonics, if I could trust the system to respect my wishes... joshcryer Mar 2012 #32
Not entirely true. Texasgal Mar 2012 #34
The system can and is gamed for VIPs. It's not as bad as, say, the legal system.... Junkdrawer Mar 2012 #35
Some do have religious reasons for not doing it. I have no such reasons. HopeHoops Mar 2012 #40
Thank you to everyone who is an organ donor. My sister just got a kidney and liver 2 weeks ago riderinthestorm Mar 2012 #43
I'm glad someone's gift was able to help your sister nobodyspecial Mar 2012 #47
bless your sister... and her donors w8liftinglady Mar 2012 #48
Wow!! Can't wait to hear from you!! My sister has had a terrific experience in San Fran riderinthestorm Mar 2012 #49
Our fresh transplants were challenging! w8liftinglady Mar 2012 #51
Yup, always a hug and most likely tears I presume (sniffles for me here). riderinthestorm Mar 2012 #55
You "can't imagine why anyone would choose not to do so"? liberalhistorian Mar 2012 #50
Maybe you should respond to what I actually SAID? TheWraith Mar 2012 #65
As long as the system is Dawson Leery Mar 2012 #52
Their body, their choice The2ndWheel Mar 2012 #60
I am an organ donor and I have been very outspoken with my family about it. davsand Mar 2012 #61
As an organ recipient, I appreciate your post. geardaddy Mar 2012 #64
calling dibs Demonaut Mar 2012 #68
What about the fact that people are charged dotymed Mar 2012 #70
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