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OriginalGeek

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25. I've spoken of my atheist tea-party friend before

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 05:31 PM

Mar 2012

He loves to spout off rw talking points and he flat out told me he believes it's murder from the moment of conception. That's why he's opposed to it. And babies are innocent whereas death-row criminals are not. I told him (this was just 2 weeks ago) that he sure seemed to have a lot of ideas based in religion for a guy who is an atheist. He hasn't brought up that subject since.

I imagine the indoctrination runs deep - his parents were conservative christian missionaries to south america and he spent a lot of time in his youth in Ecuador. It has made him an incredibly loving and kind and generous person in some regards and terribly not in others.

He simply will not believe a woman has a right to "murder her unborn child". He is not a huge fan of some science - he denies climate change too.

But he is a good friend.

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Is There A Non-Christian Reason To Be Against Contraception? [View all] stopbush Mar 2012 OP

Nat Hentoff comes to mind. He was secular and anti-abortion. immoderate Mar 2012 #1

Hentoff, like a lot of medically ignorant antiabortionists Warpy Mar 2012 #15

Agreed. Hentoff kind of romanticized the fetus as a "person." immoderate Mar 2012 #22

I think if you really take the time to research, you'd find few Christian denominations are against hlthe2b Mar 2012 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Mar 2012 #3

There are no non-religious reasons AFAIK Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #4

Jesus spoke often about abortion... orwell Mar 2012 #5

I must have missed the Christian reasons gratuitous Mar 2012 #6

Saying "I'm a D, he's an R" is hauling out a broad brush. stopbush Mar 2012 #14

No gratuitous Mar 2012 #16

The Bible is make believe. All religions are based on make believe. stopbush Mar 2012 #27

Yeah, that whole "serve one another in love" gratuitous Mar 2012 #30

Oh, please. The ethos of reciprocity dates back to ancient Egypt. stopbush Mar 2012 #32

So? gratuitous Mar 2012 #34

You're offering the broken clock argument for religious belief. stopbush Mar 2012 #35

Broad brushes for narrow minds. LanternWaste Mar 2012 #18

the only non-christian reason... Beer Snob-50 Mar 2012 #7

There might be. And people who have such reasons MineralMan Mar 2012 #8

Yes, egotism could be behind anti-contraception. And also abortion. sinkingfeeling Mar 2012 #9

I'd be willing to bet there are some "back to nature" types who are against family planning Recursion Mar 2012 #10

Nothing comes to mind sakabatou Mar 2012 #11

On contraception, I got nothin'. On abortion... FATNED Mar 2012 #12

A further extension to that is SATIRical Mar 2012 #17

Yes, and it's the most common reason to oppose contraception, even among Christians. IT HURTS PEOPLE saras Mar 2012 #13

Not sure about the first... JSnuffy Mar 2012 #19

Not just Christians OPOS Mar 2012 #20

Roman Catholics, Mormons, and some fundamentalist groups are the only Christian groups I know of Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2012 #21

No Aerows Mar 2012 #23

Contraception? I'd say it isn't even an issue among most Christians, so I'd lean toward no and TheKentuckian Mar 2012 #24

I've spoken of my atheist tea-party friend before OriginalGeek Mar 2012 #25

I wouldn't want to see contraception or abortion forced on women Cleita Mar 2012 #26

Thoughtful, reasonable people will be outbred by careless idiots? FarCenter Mar 2012 #28

Since most Christians aren't against contraception onenote Mar 2012 #29

Yes, but such reasons probably don't feature much in America LeftishBrit Mar 2012 #31

The most conservative Islam clerics oppose contraception muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #33

The idea that sex should be for procreative purposes only has nothing to do with religion lapislzi Mar 2012 #36