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65. So that guy's mug followed the teen in a SUV as he walked to 7-11 and followed him straight home

Mon Mar 12, 2012, 06:41 PM

Mar 2012

Martin feels afraid/offended/suspicious/nervous/angry and confronts Zimmerman wanting to know why he's being followed, because it's not like he's a real cop to begin with (and anyone can buy a uniform and call themselves anything)...Of course Zimmerman doesn't have a legit reason, only a flimsy bullshit excuse that only feeds the fire because Martin is old enough to know the indignity of doing "____ while black" or maybe he thinks Zimmerman is a fraud or a burglar trying to sniff out where he lives...Things escalate, a scuffle ensues and without cause or warning, someone "accidentally" gets shot...

This is just pure speculation on my part based on no evidence...Since Zimmerman is the only one alive to tell the story, I'll bet dollars to yen that his recall of events will be just as imaginary...

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Black Teen Killed for Carrying Skittles [View all] babylonsister Mar 2012 OP

is mr. zimmerman on face book. maybe his family would like to know how racist and evil he is? Robeysays Mar 2012 #1

Paging Anonymous! Paging Anonymous! A doxing is in order!!! n/t backscatter712 Mar 2012 #5

Yeah, descend to that idiot's level--that'll help .... NOT. MADem Mar 2012 #99

nobody has stooped this idiot's level until he is lying in a morgue frylock Mar 2012 #156

I'm quite certain his family knows about this incident arcane1 Mar 2012 #7

Has skittles posted since this incident? pipoman Mar 2012 #2

Is that supposed to be funny? Hoyt Mar 2012 #6

Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #13

Looks like the police have a few questions that need to be answered Rex Mar 2012 #3

There's even more to the story about that as well Major Nikon Mar 2012 #11

Why did they treat Zimmerman like he was special? Rex Mar 2012 #14

It's what I've been trying to tell you all. The Backlash Cometh Mar 2012 #28

I'm wondering who Zimmerman's family is or who he's related to Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #51

I agree. Something is fishy here. MADem Mar 2012 #105

I can't say for sure Major Nikon Mar 2012 #58

Why did Gregory Floyd get a pass on shooting Liko Kinney? Mopar151 Mar 2012 #108

Somebodywho has political connections in the area. The Backlash Cometh Mar 2012 #26

What I've read on this horrible incident indicates the young man was shot for being Black. Hoyt Mar 2012 #4

But it is Florida... LiberalArkie Mar 2012 #9

Yup. Bigots like that love authority Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #10

authoratay The Backlash Cometh Mar 2012 #29

Hell, I can lay on the ground and punch myself in the nose... angstlessk Mar 2012 #8

Shane did it in Walking Dead last night. The Backlash Cometh Mar 2012 #30

Beware of black men carrying candy! KamaAina Mar 2012 #12

WAY too little info to make a judgement on this, but I doubt that will stop anybody. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #15

Black kid goes to store for candy, gets hassled by white guy with gun. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #17

Did you take video? nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #18

LOL! Rex Mar 2012 #21

What article? nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #23

I read the article. It's light on facts, heavy on assumptions. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2012 #114

Finally, a voice of reason, nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #116

LOL! Rex Mar 2012 #134

Get our guns. We ride tonight! nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #140

Right he shot a kid armed with a bag of skittles. Rex Mar 2012 #130

I'd like to see a demographic breakdown of that gated community azurnoir Mar 2012 #152

Really? Which person is dead? Ikonoklast Mar 2012 #22

So if someone killed an unarmed rapist then..... Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #24

So where did you read of a rape ? Stick with the facts. bahrbearian Mar 2012 #32

No one knows all the facts just yet, so why should I stick with them? Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #43

So if someone is Suspected of rape, its ok to kill them? bahrbearian Mar 2012 #64

Maybe if only caught in the act. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #110

Don't bend over too-far backward sudopod Mar 2012 #89

Yeah, innocent until proven guilty is so passe. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #109

Straw Man. Any argument started with the word "So..." is a fallacious argument. Ikonoklast Mar 2012 #36

No. You said the question was which one was dead. Does that only apply in certain situations? Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #42

Which one had previous violent run-ins with the police? Ikonoklast Mar 2012 #48

So now it's which one is dead, and which one had run-ins with the police? I thought the police Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #50

Another Straw Man. Ikonoklast Mar 2012 #55

You seem to have a misunderstanding of the definition of a straw man. I am just asking you to Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #56

Let's invent scenarios to support our prejudices, then post about facts not in evidence. Ikonoklast Mar 2012 #59

you have specific criteria on who we should cast scorn upon Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #74

I am fine with casting scorn on those who call 911 and THEN start fights morningfog Mar 2012 #117

I see that determining the facts is not your first priority. Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #118

Bullshit. morningfog Mar 2012 #121

Sorry I won't join your mob. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #123

It's no mob, just racial justice. It is clear which side you have joined. morningfog Mar 2012 #126

All mobs seem to yell about justice. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #127

Oh, you're so dramatic. And obvious. morningfog Mar 2012 #128

Let me know when you round up the menfolk and we ride. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #129

Let me know when rich white guys who kill unarmed black men in gated morningfog Mar 2012 #131

It is sad and obvious ain't it? Rex Mar 2012 #133

I totally agree. This is a clear case of racial injustice. morningfog Mar 2012 #136

Can you give me a few other examples? nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #141

Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #168

So you're saying you can't give me a few other examples? nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #169

Shame on you. morningfog Mar 2012 #103

Did you at least take photos? nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #111

I read the articles. morningfog Mar 2012 #112

Which articles? I don't remember any of them using the phrase "billy badass wannabe cop". Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #113

The articles in the OP and linked from there. morningfog Mar 2012 #115

You do realize that the OP does not cite a news article? Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #119

There are news articles linked from there. morningfog Mar 2012 #122

Yes, Steven D does link to some articles, but none say anything remotely what you are saying. Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #124

Well he was a known troublemaker in his neighborhood. pennylane100 Mar 2012 #148

Could be good info, but "anonymous homeowner" does not make for a good source. Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #149

He was certainly not an annoymous source. pennylane100 Mar 2012 #154

This is all based on the "anonymous homeowner's" account though. Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #155

Jesus, the Dalai Lama and the ghost of Mother Theresa are preparing to come down as we speak Number23 Mar 2012 #163

I have to assume that you do not know the definition of "data". nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #164

When members of the home association are quoted in a nation-wide publication Number23 Mar 2012 #166

What members are quoted? nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #170

Was the 17 year old charged with a crime? Was he even THOUGHT to have committed a crime Number23 Mar 2012 #162

Have either of them been charged with a crime yet? Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #165

Here is some information Boojatta Mar 2012 #37

It's not too early to ask why the cops didn't question him on the record Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #60

you are 100% correct Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #75

So should we wait to comment on ALL stories until they've been adjudicated? DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2012 #66

no. we can ask questions, but maybe we should Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #76

Tell that to Zimmerman Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2012 #82

For the record, I voted to hide this post of yours excuse not to write Mar 2012 #85

Good on you for voting to hide that shit. morningfog Mar 2012 #137

Welcome to DU. ellisonz Mar 2012 #161

I imagine many people believe we should forbid ourselves from discussing a thing LanternWaste Mar 2012 #100

Sad. ellisonz Mar 2012 #16

Seriously, ellison, you use a thread like this to call-out other DUers? petronius Mar 2012 #84

Call-outs aren't against any rule. ellisonz Mar 2012 #86

I wasn't talking about rules, I was talking about standards, manners, and civil discourse (nt) petronius Mar 2012 #87

And I'm talking about the issues... ellisonz Mar 2012 #88

George Zimmerman, Neighborhood Watch Captain Who Shot Trayvon Martin, Charged With Violence Before ellisonz Mar 2012 #19

Thanks for sharing a pic of Trayvon Martin, babylonsister Mar 2012 #27

I think people forget that the victims of gun violence... ellisonz Mar 2012 #34

did you see the video of his mother JI7 Mar 2012 #38

Yikes, that is a young looking 17 year old. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #44

Probably an older pic... ellisonz Mar 2012 #46

Are they saying he was 300lb? nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #47

Really? ellisonz Mar 2012 #52

Sorry, haven't seen any videos and don't know what is recent footage. Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #53

The kid was 140, the killer 200 lbs. morningfog Mar 2012 #104

omg, that pic makes me want to cry...this is such sad story uponit7771 Mar 2012 #92

Here is "Mr." zimmerman and his "squeaky clean record" hobbit709 Mar 2012 #97

Ooooooh, that teen ager looks SCARY... MADem Mar 2012 #101

Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #20

I've been jumping up and down for years The Backlash Cometh Mar 2012 #25

He could just be part of "good ole boy" network. Hoyt Mar 2012 #33

You think? The Backlash Cometh Mar 2012 #35

Here's a picture of George Zimmerman Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #41

So that guy's mug followed the teen in a SUV as he walked to 7-11 and followed him straight home Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #65

If there was any scuffle at all... ellisonz Mar 2012 #67

Something happened because George was bloodied, according to one of the articles. The Backlash Cometh Mar 2012 #70

Could have bloodied himself... ellisonz Mar 2012 #73

True, but a scuffle wouldn't surprise me Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #96

Yup. Zimmerman was already committing an aggressive act against Martin. Withywindle Mar 2012 #158

I would like to hear more details. The Backlash Cometh Mar 2012 #69

I'm also curious to know about the professsional standards Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #94

The result is very important. The Backlash Cometh Mar 2012 #120

Does anyone have one of those people finder links The Backlash Cometh Mar 2012 #31

The white pages notadmblnd Mar 2012 #40

Thanks. The Backlash Cometh Mar 2012 #49

Looks like 2nd degree murder to me. Deep13 Mar 2012 #39

I think they got the headline backwards... hughee99 Mar 2012 #45

. Go Vols Mar 2012 #54

What a nice looking young man. knitter4democracy Mar 2012 #172

I hope the delay is only because the prosecutor wants to a strong case... Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #57

This is a county where... The Backlash Cometh Mar 2012 #71

UPDATE: Mayor and Police Chief Press Conference Today Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #61

Self defense for Skittles??? Or was it the tea? Being black is more like it. Jeeze. Pathetic. nt babylonsister Mar 2012 #77

Bullshit. ellisonz Mar 2012 #81

Yeap, the fact that he got out ALREADY poses question of Zimmermans aggression uponit7771 Mar 2012 #93

The Daily Mail has a lot more photos Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #62

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2012 #63

Kick politicasista Mar 2012 #68

Why did he confront the teen DevonRex Mar 2012 #72

If the 911 recording proved Zimmerman was in the right, it would have been released the day after... Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #106

Yep. It puts the shooter in a bad light. DevonRex Mar 2012 #150

Well, he wasn't killed because he had Skittles. The subject line is a ittle disingenuous. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #78

Why do you think he was killed? I do agree with you. nt babylonsister Mar 2012 #80

He was killed because he was a skinny black kid visiting a family in a gated community and this MADem Mar 2012 #102

Poor kid Art_from_Ark Mar 2012 #79

k/r -- horrible story fishwax Mar 2012 #83

Too little info thus far ... Kennah Mar 2012 #90

The 911 call is still the key, even before ballistics Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #107

Stand Your Ground doesn't mean you can pick a fight with someone and then shoot the person slackmaster Mar 2012 #143

It does in FL jpak Mar 2012 #146

Wrong. slackmaster Mar 2012 #147

Portions of the police report released show he was told to keep his distance. morningfog Mar 2012 #142

This story is heartbreaking. A child is dead because of some disgusting trigger happy idiot. Lilyeye Mar 2012 #91

there's a term for this killing: murder. spanone Mar 2012 #95

They need to make this a FEDERAL CASE. There is no justice in racist Florida, I think. MADem Mar 2012 #98

I hope some credible witnesses come forward, or a video slackmaster Mar 2012 #125

They could release the 911 call, that would help. morningfog Mar 2012 #132

They seem scared to death to release the 911 call Rex Mar 2012 #135

A community of rich white boys. So, what's a dead black boy? morningfog Mar 2012 #138

I'm not willing to read anything into it at this point slackmaster Mar 2012 #139

I am going with the 911 tape as being key evidence. Rex Mar 2012 #145

Another Castle Law get-out-of-jail-free murder jpak Mar 2012 #144

He is not covered by the Castle Doctrine. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #151

Castle only applies to self-defense within your own home. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2012 #159

No, it is not covered by that. TheWraith Mar 2012 #160

Actually, it sounds like Martin may have been protected by "Stand Your Ground" krispos42 Mar 2012 #167

Wow, just wow. Alcibiades Mar 2012 #153

If There's A White Guy With A Gun Involved....... Paladin Mar 2012 #171

You can always Google if you want more details. jobycom Mar 2012 #157