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hfojvt

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38. reading that list just leads me to think

Fri Dec 13, 2013, 02:00 AM

Dec 2013

wow, no white person is ever good enough, are they?

Of course, the list mentioned white guilt and defensiveness. Well, when they list all those things that white people apparently say and do wrong, how is one NOT supposed to feel white guilt? And when one is apparently berated for doing and/or saying all those things wrong, how is one NOT supposed to be defensive?

It reminds me of the joke I heard last weekend. This guy said "whenever I argue with my wife, I always get the last words - 'yes, ma'am'."

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28 Common Racist Attitudes And Behaviors [View all] MrScorpio Dec 2013 OP

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Welcome to DU! nt MrScorpio Dec 2013 #2

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #4

can't read attached pdf Liberal_in_LA Dec 2013 #3

Try it with a different browser MrScorpio Dec 2013 #7

Displays fine in Chrome. n/t Feral Child Dec 2013 #71

I see that "#1" all the time at other sites I visit, bullwinkle428 Dec 2013 #5

Stephen Colbert riffs on the first one Stinky The Clown Dec 2013 #6

Wow RobinA Dec 2013 #8

Not so secretly. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #77

Very good summary of the common racist memes. Deep13 Dec 2013 #9

so white people Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #42

Sorry, but even when we don't want to be FrodosPet Dec 2013 #46

So the answer is yes... Decaffeinated Dec 2013 #48

really? Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #49

I know you didn't ask me, but I'm going to toss in my two cents. notadmblnd Dec 2013 #101

True. Can we ever get over it ? treestar Dec 2013 #79

I know for a fact that I am not Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #115

No. Deep13 Dec 2013 #113

Judging people based on merit and not skin color is racist.. Decaffeinated Dec 2013 #10

It used to be that treating people differently based upon their skin color was racist, Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #11

No, the problem really is pretending like you 'politely' don't notice Matariki Dec 2013 #12

Race only matters to racists... Decaffeinated Dec 2013 #13

Wow. No. Matariki Dec 2013 #15

+ 1,000,000 ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #18

Do you have a point? Decaffeinated Dec 2013 #22

The point is that your post is vastly ignorant of the history of this country. kwassa Dec 2013 #30

That poster is one of a handful of folks here that have made it perfectly clear they don't get Number23 Dec 2013 #107

Yes, their actions reveal them, don't they? Racism is their pet issue, and they don't know the issue kwassa Dec 2013 #108

I agree with your "It's like being right handed or left. Statement of fact" statement though. Matariki Dec 2013 #21

The color blind act probably works better when you don't use a racial slur. LeftyMom Dec 2013 #37

Ding! Capt. Obvious Dec 2013 #55

No kidding. laundry_queen Dec 2013 #57

bingo! Dorian Gray Dec 2013 #118

No... no, I'm pretty proud of white people in America.. well, the progressive ones that is... uponit7771 Dec 2013 #88

I notice someone's race. I notice their hair color. I notice their height. I notice lots of things. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #19

Then why are you complaining about the list? gollygee Dec 2013 #53

Because "character, not color, IS what counts with me", Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #60

What number on the list makes you feel that way? gollygee Dec 2013 #62

The phrase "character, not color is what counts with me" was condemned in #1 (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #63

Ah yeah I see that gollygee Dec 2013 #64

+1. It's the denial and hypocrisy... YoungDemCA Dec 2013 #103

Excellent! ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #14

I can only give it a shot MrScorpio Dec 2013 #16

I'm through with this thread already ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #24

More helpful would be to describe how white people can possibly not be racist Blue_In_AK Dec 2013 #17

That's the intended point... Decaffeinated Dec 2013 #20

Why? Because racism is a thing of the past and we don't need to bother paying attention anymore? ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #26

No, it's because of people like the author who needs to expand the definition... Decaffeinated Dec 2013 #28

Then what would you suggest? ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #31

Addressing ACTUAL racism? sibelian Dec 2013 #116

Bullshit. Did you even read the list? kwassa Dec 2013 #33

I didn't say the list... Decaffeinated Dec 2013 #34

No, it doesn't. kwassa Dec 2013 #36

I deigned to read the rest of the list... Decaffeinated Dec 2013 #65

The key words there are gollygee Dec 2013 #67

There is no disclaimer in that statement... Decaffeinated Dec 2013 #68

Yes, it's in the part you quoted. gollygee Dec 2013 #69

You have a great talent at completely misinterpeting what you read. kwassa Dec 2013 #96

The problem is, the author is revealing his own distrust ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #72

Well I can think of ways he'd know gollygee Dec 2013 #73

Now that is a common white wing meme. One of the most racist professors I had Hoyt Dec 2013 #27

How is it wrong? Decaffeinated Dec 2013 #29

That is odd logic gollygee Dec 2013 #51

How is that functionally distinguishable from just treating them well? sibelian Dec 2013 #117

winger much ?! tia uponit7771 Dec 2013 #89

It's best to assume as a white persons we've internalized white privilege ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #23

How can any white person avoid feeling soul crushing guilt? FrodosPet Dec 2013 #47

My African-American boss once said that, in America, at least "Everyone is racist" and she did whathehell Dec 2013 #58

My understanding gollygee Dec 2013 #66

I understand what you're saying, but my understanding is that a person of minority status whathehell Dec 2013 #76

SIMPLY AND BEAUTIFULLY STATED!! The essence of being human uponit7771 Dec 2013 #91

I think you hit upon the actual point of this kind of list. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #25

Having a black president doesn't change everything. kwassa Dec 2013 #35

AMEN!! The tenants of racism today are STILL econmica equality and education, even Bush saw this uponit7771 Dec 2013 #92

FYI, that poster would be Exhibit B as per our conversation upthread Number23 Dec 2013 #110

Indeed. I do agree. kwassa Dec 2013 #111

A question worth considering treestar Dec 2013 #78

I don't know if anyone black would agree with me on this.... moriah Dec 2013 #32

reading that list just leads me to think hfojvt Dec 2013 #38

after reading the list I came to the same clonclusion Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #43

but aren't we really just the same person? hfojvt Dec 2013 #44

True and if so treestar Dec 2013 #90

South Park had it right. "I get it, Token. I don't get it. I'll never get it." moriah Dec 2013 #50

What a great video! gollygee Dec 2013 #82

Did you grow up in the 1940s or something? hfojvt Dec 2013 #83

Yeah but if you compare experiences gollygee Dec 2013 #85

I find it odd that Kathleen was NOT asked for ID hfojvt Dec 2013 #93

I grew up in the 80s, and if you choose not to believe her story, that's your choice. moriah Dec 2013 #86

BWAME was one of the 28 from the link in the OP hfojvt Dec 2013 #97

I'm truly appalled that you would come to that conclusion from the video. moriah Dec 2013 #99

Oh and gollygee Dec 2013 #87

sure, hfojvt Dec 2013 #98

What I said was that you didn't often see them in starring roles, or in commercials. moriah Dec 2013 #100

Oh bla bla bla. Skip Intro Dec 2013 #39

people of any race can be prejudiced CreekDog Dec 2013 #81

On Reverse Racism: MrScorpio Dec 2013 #40

+1 ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #41

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2013 #94

Looks as if quite few people missed the summary MrScorpio Dec 2013 #45

Boy that sounds like fun doesn't it? el_bryanto Dec 2013 #52

"�He happens to be black.� arely staircase Dec 2013 #54

How shocking - is that the word I'm looking for? - Capt. Obvious Dec 2013 #56

White people are sensitive about the concept of white privilege gollygee Dec 2013 #59

There's a word for what you're experiencing and what you've freely opened yourself up to... MrScorpio Dec 2013 #61

Not as much, it seems, as Men are to the concept of Male Priviliedge, if this website is any whathehell Dec 2013 #104

Excellent article, Mr Feral Child Dec 2013 #70

I've read through the posts Feral Child Dec 2013 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author Shandris Dec 2013 #80

Very good list. 1, 15 & 16 are common when I cross paths with people who never left my home town. hunter Dec 2013 #75

Yeah. Avatar is racist because the blue-skinned aliens supposedly represent black people. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #84

Having fun? Number23 Dec 2013 #109

I don't know any Na'vi myself... Shandris Dec 2013 #112

I disagree with her re-definition of racism in #3. Glassunion Dec 2013 #95

Why wouldn't I feel guilty One_Life_To_Give Dec 2013 #102

A good deal of this is bilge, I'm afraid. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2013 #105

Definition #3 is a pretty common definition, I've been hearing it for 30 years or so. kwassa Dec 2013 #106

I'm jewish, but I'm also white. I'm white, but I'm also gay. Kurska Dec 2013 #114