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54. I didn't actually say it was a raced base decision

Fri Dec 13, 2013, 03:05 AM

Dec 2013

I don't believe it was. 1) both of those guys looked good on paper, ten years experience and such 2) both of them were clearly bigger and stronger than me.

It was only when I worked side by side with them, that they seemed far less qualified.

The point was, whether the decision was race based or not (and I am conceding that it was not) those black men WERE advancing while I, myself, remained stuck working a part-time job.

But yes, this did represent a fairly unique event in my work life, where I got to see and work with the person who got the job instead of me. Now, I could point to the Kraft plant where I worked many years as a temp while a couple other white guys got hired (and fired), but a) it was not nearly so direct. Kraft would generally hire five or six at a time, so was there really ONE who beat me out? and b) other than Dennis, I did not really work directly with any of the others, and even Dennis was working in other areas that I was not.

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I didn't actually say it was a raced base decision hfojvt Dec 2013 #54

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