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BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
23. I hope those who are far more expert than I will chime in here
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 05:31 PM
Dec 2013

But my experience after my short tenure at a continuation/remedial high school was this:

Charter schools can be run by the school district. They are often pet projects of an administrator. We had one in our district which was called a "technology" high school. All the kids were given laptops, all the rooms had $15k white boards, everything was supposed to be state of the art.

The outcome was--

1) NO new computers or technology at any other school site that year and very reduced monies the following year. Charter schools are meant to be flashy and impressive and they are huge resource hogs. They siphon badly needed resources from all the other schools. So you have a small percentage of students on top of the line computers and the rest of the schools the children are working on donated computers where the OS is so outdated it can't connect to the internet.

2) Because this school is run so differently than other schools in the district, everything must be specially catered. That means a special staff and extremely expensive "consultants" (which is how the private sector got their foot in the door in the first place.) This was an economically challenged district and six-figure salaries for consultants who basically came in with a lot of power point presentations was another waste of precious monies.

3) School administrator uses this as a stepping to a better job. New administrator comes in, abandons old guy's pet project in favor of a new one to pad his or her resume: charter starts to fall apart without the extra funding.

4) In order to keep the charter looking like the highest achieving school on all the standardized tests, any academic or behavioral problem students are immediately ejected. Now they can't just send them back to the regular high school because the paperwork and system is not that flexible. So where do they end up? Our remedial high school. We were overflowing with students and our class sizes went from 10-15 (because we were working with students where this was their last chance) to close to 40. Now all those students who hoped to get a better education at the state of the art school were just herded into a closet so their test scores didn't effect the charter. They became very dispirited and often depressed because of this major change.

Creating a hierarchy within the school system was just not the answer. And many parents became very disillusioned with the charter school and tried to get their students back into the regular high school. It was an absolute mess.

So no, I'm no fan of charter schools whether run by the school district and even less (far less) if run by a private company. They are NOT the answer to improving education.

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YES!!!!! hollysmom Dec 2013 #1
Damn right BrotherIvan Dec 2013 #2
Actually... Veilex Dec 2013 #10
Bottom line is they are NOT "public schools" duffyduff Dec 2013 #11
Explaining the facts to you is not "making excuses." cleanhippie Dec 2013 #17
I appreciate your explanation, unlike the other poster. However, I would be very surprised rhett o rick Dec 2013 #21
Paying is often not necessary, but your observation about behavior problems is accurate. Also Squinch Dec 2013 #25
I hope those who are far more expert than I will chime in here BrotherIvan Dec 2013 #23
You summed this scam perfectly. Thanks on point Dec 2013 #29
This is worthy of it's own post. CrispyQ Dec 2013 #50
Well said and thank you. This IS the "Charter School" truth in my experience and research. mountain grammy Dec 2013 #52
Thanks to all who replied to my rather long post BrotherIvan Dec 2013 #57
Where do these current Charter Schools exist LeftOfWest Dec 2013 #28
Actually, I was mistaken there... Veilex Dec 2013 #56
Charter schools don't already exist in WA. They were voted in through a recent initiative El_Johns Dec 2013 #33
They'll try to change . . . aggiesal Dec 2013 #13
Yes allnews Dec 2013 #3
Agreed! Phlem Dec 2013 #4
I wish. kcr Dec 2013 #14
I agree, also….and Welcome to DU.. Tikki Dec 2013 #20
Kick grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #5
I agree with the judge in that case. JDPriestly Dec 2013 #6
Good. El_Johns Dec 2013 #7
Wow! Thanks for posting that. madfloridian Dec 2013 #8
K&R Grey Dec 2013 #9
Most charter schools are scams. jsr Dec 2013 #12
Wouldn't it be wonderful DamnYankeeInHouston Dec 2013 #15
Good ruling. Of course there will be an appeal. n/t JimDandy Dec 2013 #16
I'm a public school teacher. WinstonSmith4740 Dec 2013 #18
What do you mean that teachers don't need teaching degrees RebelOne Dec 2013 #34
Depends upon the state. WinstonSmith4740 Dec 2013 #36
After hearing the stories of my daughter's teaching experience RebelOne Dec 2013 #40
Whoa! Middle school? WinstonSmith4740 Dec 2013 #42
If your daughter teaches her whole career at that charter school... nikto Dec 2013 #44
Yeah! immoderate Dec 2013 #19
Fabulous news. Starry Messenger Dec 2013 #22
BOOM!! nikto Dec 2013 #45
Now, export this concept to all fifty states and start funding public schools properly! nt MADem Dec 2013 #24
Recommended and kicked a shit load...................nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #26
Let's see what happens on appeal. n/t malthaussen Dec 2013 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #30
The actual ruling: diddlysquat Dec 2013 #31
Happy to be the 100th Rec! nt. druidity33 Dec 2013 #32
When will voters come to our senses? Generic Other Dec 2013 #35
Any good Constitutional lawyer knows this. blkmusclmachine Dec 2013 #37
Finally... a ray of light ReRe Dec 2013 #38
I recced this earlier on. madfloridian Dec 2013 #39
Yeah, that was it. I scanned through the rec's but didn't see your name. n/t ReRe Dec 2013 #41
All straight now. madfloridian Dec 2013 #43
This is wonderful news!! A big THANK YOU to Judge Rietschel!! hue Dec 2013 #46
k&r idwiyo Dec 2013 #47
It's about damned time! CrispyQ Dec 2013 #48
I have no problem with Charter Schools, bvar22 Dec 2013 #49
The schools weren't ruled unconstitutional frazzled Dec 2013 #51
This sure is a way to massage the message... VPStoltz Dec 2013 #54
Hey, that's the AG's word, not mine frazzled Dec 2013 #55
my daughter attends a charter school Chakaconcarne Dec 2013 #53
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