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Jasana

(490 posts)
18. Ok, honest I don't know for sure but...
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 06:09 PM
Dec 2013

these anti-vax people aren't no-evolution-6000-year-old Earth-bible-thumpers. At least not the ones I've talked to so far. Some are very intelligent but they're talking about their own children and people get weird about kids. They certainly aren't afraid of science. They even have studies that back them up. Studies that have since been de-bunked again and again and again but hey... it's their children...

And there has indeed been a rise in autism but I think part of that rise is because doctors can diagnose it better and part of it is because we've dumped 90,000 new chemicals into the earth and atmosphere and we haven't really got a clue what the long term effects on humans are. Good luck teasing that data out. One thing is for sure... male fertility is going down no matter what country you look at now and I've seen studies that indicate that men with sperm defects have more autistic children.

These anti-vax people seem smart and some even scientifically orientated but they're scared for their kids... scared in all the wrong ways if you ask me. I think some have gotten complacent in a way as well. They haven't seen measles or rubella or small pox or polio up close and personal. They honestly think their kids will be safer without the vaccines.

Okay so that's just the ones I've personally talked to. It's anecdotal. But many of them seem leftish in other views. Just my personal take.

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k&r idwiyo Dec 2013 #1
Vaccines. And now my kids don't die... SidDithers Dec 2013 #2
That's the only real reason I know of for not getting immunized. As long as only a few... Hekate Dec 2013 #3
My mother lost four siblings to the Spanish Flu. Rozlee Dec 2013 #10
du rec. xchrom Dec 2013 #4
I really don't get this anti-science backlash... Jasana Dec 2013 #5
It's not from the left Lordquinton Dec 2013 #8
The most anti vaccine folks I know Rainforestgoddess Dec 2013 #14
Yep. wildeyed Dec 2013 #33
Ok, honest I don't know for sure but... Jasana Dec 2013 #18
Your second paragraph... yes Hekate Dec 2013 #19
Another part of the rise in autism is the broadening of the definition of it jmowreader Dec 2013 #27
That could certainly warp the stats even more... Jasana Dec 2013 #28
I don't think I'd classify Jenny McCarthy as 'right-wing'. Drunken Irishman Dec 2013 #25
It's a right wing idea Lordquinton Dec 2013 #26
No, but I do think that a lot of the anti-vaccination/ anti-'modern' medicine attitude is linked to LeftishBrit Dec 2013 #29
No, it's not... SidDithers Dec 2013 #30
there are anti-vax people here on DU progressoid Dec 2013 #34
Yeah, no. Not so. Butterbean Dec 2013 #35
Anti-science almost entirely from the right. Where you get "this one seems to be from the left"? nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #12
I know people both from the right and from the left who are anti-vaccine gollygee Dec 2013 #16
+1. I know vegans that are anti-vax, pro-animal rights, against fossil fuels, the MIC, etc. freshwest Dec 2013 #21
not trusting government and business.... tomp Dec 2013 #31
"Opened to varied opinion" is problematic in the case of science. Like Fox News "Fair and Balanced" Moonwalk Dec 2013 #36
I've looked at both sides. The temperment of most posts don't reflect that. And DU is ideological. freshwest Dec 2013 #37
K&R. nt RiffRandell Dec 2013 #6
married to a woman how was immune suppressed due to chemo dembotoz Dec 2013 #7
k&r! nolabear Dec 2013 #9
Herd immunity is awesome, and your friend. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #11
"I get vaccinated not just for myself, but for everyone around me." slipslidingaway Dec 2013 #24
Frontline did a program on Vaccines a couple of years ago - The Vaccine Wars Hestia Dec 2013 #13
Frontline mockmonkey Dec 2013 #15
K&R n/t X_Digger Dec 2013 #17
k/r 840high Dec 2013 #20
We are all part of the herd. JBoy Dec 2013 #22
Thank you, my husband will have some boosters in February ... slipslidingaway Dec 2013 #23
This is a huge issue! I'm shocked when people from my generation are anti vaccine. mountain grammy Dec 2013 #32
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