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seveneyes

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77. I don't think innocence has been confirmed yet

Fri Dec 13, 2013, 10:06 PM

Dec 2013

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/13/world/middleeast/drone-strike-in-yemen-hits-wedding-convoy-killing-11.html?_r=0

Most of the dead appeared to be people suspected of being militants linked to Al Qaeda, according to tribal leaders in the area, but there were also reports that several civilians had been killed.

The drone strikes followed a deadly multistage assault last week on Yemen’s Defense Ministry that left 52 people dead, and for which Al Qaeda’s Yemen-based affiliate claimed responsibility.
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It's possible the "wedding convoy" was providing cover for the terrorists. The facts are not all in yet.

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The US government just murdered 15 people in Yemen. Who will be held accountable? [View all] Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 OP

If it's an errant drone strike Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #1

In other words, in your world view it's ok as long as an American pulled the trigger? Electric Monk Dec 2013 #20

Your analogy is false. Mine was far more accurate Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #21

You're in denial. An American drone just blew up 15 innocent civilians. That's terrorism. nt Electric Monk Dec 2013 #22

If their intent was to blow up civilians, that would be terrorism Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #24

Tell that to the families of the dead innocent civilians. Explain the nuance to them. nt Electric Monk Dec 2013 #27

Most Pakistanis support drone strikes against terrorists Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #29

Most Pakistanis support drone strikes? BS. Maybe some do, but not most. Electric Monk Dec 2013 #39

Any military-age males caught in a drone strike are automatically labelled as militants. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #86

their intent WAS to "blow up civilians...." mike_c Dec 2013 #78

It's manslaughter. BigL Dec 2013 #76

I agree with you. secondwind Dec 2013 #59

errant or not it's murder. bowens43 Dec 2013 #28

Go study law a bit more Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #30

Yay another safe and entitled American calls the play! whatchamacallit Dec 2013 #36

+1 snort Dec 2013 #48

The ad hominem is usually a resort of those without a proper argument, I'm afraid. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2013 #74

Negligent homicide? -nt Bradical79 Dec 2013 #71

more likely manslaughter rather than murder thesquanderer Dec 2013 #57

neither Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #63

Can there even be a "war crime" if you're not at war? (n/t) thesquanderer Dec 2013 #65

I doubt it Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #66

If it were a drone MyNameGoesHere Dec 2013 #40

YES. Maedhros Dec 2013 #45

Wow all of a sudden Bush Enablers warrant46 Dec 2013 #82

Many accidental shootings are ruled 2nd degree murder. WTF? nt Logical Dec 2013 #64

From what Ive read its all math Bradical79 Dec 2013 #70

Tell it to the families and loved ones of the victims. See what they have to say about it. That sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #75

I hear ya. Phlem Dec 2013 #2

Hey... I hear YOU... Adrahil Dec 2013 #3

When did we declare was on Yemen? Luminous Animal Dec 2013 #10

We declared war on al queda worldwide. Wherever they may hide Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #25

Will never happen atreides1 Dec 2013 #33

You and Mandela like peas in a pod whatchamacallit Dec 2013 #43

The MIC thanks you for your loyal service, citizen. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #88

I hear YOU. GeorgeGist Dec 2013 #35

I submit if we're enacting a policy that we know results in high numbers of civilian casualties whatchamacallit Dec 2013 #41

None. KamaAina Dec 2013 #4

Nice. Phlem Dec 2013 #5

I wonder what it would sound like if a Republican were sitting in office Phlem Dec 2013 #6

We would be screaming 840high Dec 2013 #80

Or if Chinese or Russian drones were roaming over the US and took out a wedding party? neverforget Dec 2013 #84

Has anyone other than anonymous sources confirmed it yet? seveneyes Dec 2013 #7

He'll I haven't even seen a link to an article... Agschmid Dec 2013 #69

Drone Strike in Yemen Hits Wedding Convoy, Killing 11 struggle4progress Dec 2013 #8

Oh, see? Terrorists being killed for doing terrorist acts Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #26

You did see the word "suspected"? atreides1 Dec 2013 #37

Or they had forensic and other evidence tying this group Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #38

Unbelievable. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #90

Disgusting neverforget Dec 2013 #95

We are blowing up wedding parties again? RC Dec 2013 #32

drone terror bombing is just terrorism rafeh1 Dec 2013 #9

Generally in these matters, the victims are responsible Bragi Dec 2013 #11

The victims, of course Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #12

Just because it was an accident doesn't excuse accountability. 15 innocent people are dead. Erose999 Dec 2013 #13

We hold people accountable in this country by voting. politichew Dec 2013 #14

? bvar22 Dec 2013 #52

With that comment -- and only your 7th one I might add -- You have just WON..... DeSwiss Dec 2013 #56

I'm sorry that me promoting going to the ballot box upsets your sensitivities, politichew Dec 2013 #58

Ralph Nader! Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #15

It's not murder when we do it. Jeez, what country do you think this is? Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #16

Hell, people on this board excused the deliberate murder by missile of an AMERICAN CHILD. LeftyMom Dec 2013 #17

Does anyone have an answer to my question? What happens to the people that did this? Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #18

There will be no accountability. n/t Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #23

Who killed Pat Tillman? Does anyone care? randome Dec 2013 #31

You realize that not one person was held "officially" responsible for the Haditha massacre Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #60

My guess is that you already know the answer to your question. Kaleva Dec 2013 #62

I don't think innocence has been confirmed yet seveneyes Dec 2013 #77

Nah, nothing to worry about. It was just an innocent mistake. Forget about it. idwiyo Dec 2013 #97

Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #19

They are collateral damage, not people LittleBlue Dec 2013 #34

The My Lai massacre was an accident Ichingcarpenter Dec 2013 #46

The my lai massacre according to history.com Phlem Dec 2013 #54

It was not an accident karynnj Dec 2013 #89

neither was this murder Ichingcarpenter Dec 2013 #93

At least they stopped giving the murderers medals. Hopefully, they'll get around to trials. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #42

Well, it definitely WON'T be theaocp Dec 2013 #44

our war machine answers to no one. i doubt they ever will. spanone Dec 2013 #47

Now, now.. lest not jump to conclusions! bvar22 Dec 2013 #49

They'll blame Nobody. DeSwiss Dec 2013 #50

One of those people could have become the next Mandela in 20 years after the wedding NoOneMan Dec 2013 #51

Or the next bin laden. Since neither of us know the facts of the strike, I suggest holding off bluestate10 Dec 2013 #67

Yeah. Kill everyone then. Let God sort it out NoOneMan Dec 2013 #73

I Blame Bush BKH70041 Dec 2013 #53

No one malaise Dec 2013 #55

The US Government Suffers from Affluenza! Heather MC Dec 2013 #61

Link? Agschmid Dec 2013 #68

No one, but you knew that already. nt Incitatus Dec 2013 #72

It's different now that a Democrat is in the White House. nt Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #79

The consequences will likely fall upon other innocent people. Coyotl Dec 2013 #81

the people responsible for creating our enemies seveneyes Dec 2013 #85

Good first guess. Coyotl Dec 2013 #87

Kick. johnnyreb Dec 2013 #83

no statute of limitations on murder solarhydrocan Dec 2013 #91

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #92

I know we're supposed to jump to conclusions Desert805 Dec 2013 #94

It's for their own good. idwiyo Dec 2013 #96