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146. We as a society have to pay for those who kill people on the road every day. Having experienced

Sat Dec 14, 2013, 12:32 AM

Dec 2013

someone using their automobile irresponsibly causing the death of a loved one, I know first hand what a lethal weapon an automobile can be. I have never lost anyone due to someone having a cigarette. Our family has also experienced the loss of loved ones due to alcohol abuse, as have untold numbers of others, not to mention the other effects of alcohol, domestic abuse, economic disaster, legal problems that affect entire families.

But your comment is exhibit #1 of what I meant regarding the anti-smoking crowd. I know of no family that has suffered death, domestic abuse or economic problems due to smoking,

You just dismissed the horrific effects of alcohol abuse, it is estimated that one alcoholic adversely affects on average, six other people, including children, multiplying the devastation of alcohol in the lives of everyone associated with it.

Death by automobile averages approximately 25,000 human beings every year.

Thanks for dismissing all those precious lives and for proving my point an my reason for ignoring the anti-smoking crowd.

No smoker has ever killed another human being. If you drive a car you are contributing to the foul air we are all forced to breathe in every day. If you drink, or do drugs, or are addicted to prescription drugs, you are a threat to society. The least threat to society of all the personal choices people make, are smokers, by the numbers.

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Good for them get the red out Dec 2013 #1

Some plain facts for the smoking promoters Ernest Partridge Dec 2013 #212

I don't smoke get the red out Dec 2013 #274

Your facts yeoman6987 Dec 2013 #329

Junk food only causes the deaths of the people who eat it. EOTE Dec 2013 #336

It was a legitimate post yeoman6987 Dec 2013 #359

Legitimately silly. EOTE Dec 2013 #361

Outstanding story! yeoman6987 Dec 2013 #328

not smoking RJReynolds isn't about 'health nut'. However, I'm thrilled to hear such a nice story KittyWampus Dec 2013 #2

Smokers are the new target for hate. Th1onein Dec 2013 #3

As a smoker, I've never felt that... LanternWaste Dec 2013 #8

me either. Viking12 Dec 2013 #75

I'll go along with that. The guy I know who gets most upset about anti-smoking rules is also brewens Dec 2013 #251

If you are thoughtful about it people have no reason to hate.. SomethingFishy Dec 2013 #114

i hate smoking. my sister in law is right now awaiting roguevalley Dec 2013 #159

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Dec 2013 #173

hangonkids, I am assuming you self deleted after a moment roguevalley Dec 2013 #253

Take that up with cancer causing compamies everywhere HangOnKids Dec 2013 #278

My perspective is entirely different. BellaKos Dec 2013 #292

roguevalley, see my post #294 Hekate Dec 2013 #298

LOL, not, not really. n-t Logical Dec 2013 #10

Absolutely. All those anti-smoker hate crimes MUST STOP! Oh, wait..... Squinch Dec 2013 #18

If you forced anyone else to stand outside in Fawke Em Dec 2013 #204

Oh, the humanity! Being forced to stand outside for a cigarette!!!! Squinch Dec 2013 #207

Nobody is forcing them to stand outside. Codeine Dec 2013 #231

If you want it you should pay for it weissmam Dec 2013 #255

Seriously, and what about my rights? EOTE Dec 2013 #338

NEW, you say? NEW? trof Dec 2013 #52

Absolutely, and I'm sick of it. Th1onein Dec 2013 #116

Smoked for 52 years fadedrose Dec 2013 #273

Especially with coffee BellaKos Dec 2013 #288

Yep fadedrose Dec 2013 #291

Yep. lol n/t BellaKos Dec 2013 #293

Hey, have you ever noticed those people who COUGH when they walk by you when Th1onein Dec 2013 #313

Ask them to cover their mouths so you don't catch something fadedrose Dec 2013 #316

I was thinking along the lines of....... Th1onein Dec 2013 #317

I'm one of them. Crunchy Frog Dec 2013 #331

Ah, come on now. You know better than that, and so do I. Th1onein Dec 2013 #332

Just look at what happens in the e cig threads... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2013 #119

Rode in with the election of Bill Clinton Samantha Dec 2013 #144

you were the majority for 500 years. roguevalley Dec 2013 #254

Not defending tobacco companies nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #262

+1 nt Live and Learn Dec 2013 #296

...Believes no one, ever n/t Scootaloo Dec 2013 #79

Because YOU said so? HangOnKids Dec 2013 #174

Because reality says so Scootaloo Dec 2013 #178

Wow, anger issues ? russspeakeasy Dec 2013 #259

Well, I see something worth being angry about Scootaloo Dec 2013 #261

^This^. The histrionics among the "oppressed" here are absurd. Squinch Dec 2013 #306

Did I Say I Smoke? HangOnKids Dec 2013 #277

I believe it. Fawke Em Dec 2013 #205

Gangs of smokist skinheads roaming the streets beating people down Codeine Dec 2013 #89

There are a lot more versions of hate than killing people or smashing windows. Th1onein Dec 2013 #115

I apologize for not taking your self-declared victimhood with the seriousness Codeine Dec 2013 #125

Now you're being rude. Th1onein Dec 2013 #242

Don't you love being told you are now going to be ignored? zappaman Dec 2013 #327

"Ultra Light Kristalnacht"....okay..I laughed...nt msanthrope Dec 2013 #221

I agree mokawanis Dec 2013 #103

Only when they inflict smoke on others. WA State has just made marijuana legal eridani Dec 2013 #187

Many people seem to forget that tobacco use is a legal activity. Arkansas Granny Dec 2013 #4

Correct. Present smoker. 840high Dec 2013 #69

I agree. Fawke Em Dec 2013 #230

Maria sounds like a very nice lady. enlightenment Dec 2013 #5

Yes HockeyMom Dec 2013 #12

Yum. enlightenment Dec 2013 #16

mmmm keroro gunsou Dec 2013 #142

I DO NOT miss the days where most people smoked and could smoke anywhere. Most don't. n-t Logical Dec 2013 #6

I'm old enough to remember when smoking was allowed *inside* at this kind of event. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #7

No kidding. It was gross. Also, on planes, in theaters. Why is this nostalgic for people? n-t Logical Dec 2013 #9

My mom smokes and I admit to going to her house less than I would like simply because I hate the Ed Suspicious Dec 2013 #24

Both my parents smoked growing up. I hated it. Both died of smoking. nt Logical Dec 2013 #28

Same here. Not Me Dec 2013 #36

Many people smoke at our company events, they step outside, I never saw anyone be rude to them. n-t Logical Dec 2013 #40

It is still allowed in a few states. Go Vols Dec 2013 #56

You're a Vols fan... Fawke Em Dec 2013 #208

Yep,I posted the same above you, Go Vols Dec 2013 #214

I live in Missouri. xmas74 Dec 2013 #210

we'd often go the cafeteria at the hospital next door for lunch and sit in the smoking section. LanternWaste Dec 2013 #11

Please quit. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #14

What the Health Industry DOESN'T tell you HockeyMom Dec 2013 #38

Have you tried e-cigs? If not, please do. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #42

I am a smoker and have tried the e-cigarettes. RebelOne Dec 2013 #109

You don't inhale them the same way... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2013 #120

You have the right to kill yourself smoking. No one is saying you don't. n-t Logical Dec 2013 #43

It's all a matter of statistics. You vastly improve your chances of not dying pnwmom Dec 2013 #49

As I stated in my above post, RebelOne Dec 2013 #111

You beat the odds, yay for you. eqfan592 Dec 2013 #123

Yes, I am lucky, and maybe it is because I have a good immune system. RebelOne Dec 2013 #136

Some people die of cancer related to second hand exposure. pnwmom Dec 2013 #141

Easy to take a dismissive tone until the diagnosis comes in... Surya Gayatri Dec 2013 #169

Of course, I'm sorry to hear that about your friend. BellaKos Dec 2013 #295

Thanks for the good wishes for my friend. Surya Gayatri Dec 2013 #314

Good Lord yeoman6987 Dec 2013 #330

Depends on the population you're looking at muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #335

Stats yeoman6987 Dec 2013 #358

As I said, half of the women in the USA live to 83 muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #360

Your luck is not a rational reason for anybody else to smoke. nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #190

So what? Cigarettes are still a major threat to health. pnwmom Dec 2013 #137

Yes, the evil HEALTH INDUSTRY ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #87

I'm greatly offended by an industry that doesn't want me dying Codeine Dec 2013 #91

I wonder if the restaurant offers free cake and cookies to obese people with Type 2 diabetes ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #93

There's a secret Xanax menu if you ask the waiter real nice. nt Codeine Dec 2013 #94

how about crack dlwickham Dec 2013 #202

Big Health. (nt) TacoD Dec 2013 #257

Much is in a person's genetic disposition...not all, but a significant portion... yawnmaster Dec 2013 #108

if the cancer don't get ya, the increased stroke, COPD, and emphysema risk might. dionysus Dec 2013 #133

and those, as well as cancer, have a good amount of genetic association as well... yawnmaster Dec 2013 #300

Not just length but quality of life. Not just cancer but heart, circulation, lung function, taste,nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #191

that is true... yawnmaster Dec 2013 #301

My dad quit smoking more than 30 years ago. Mariana Dec 2013 #113

Do you have reason to doubt them? eqfan592 Dec 2013 #124

"...that can come back to bite you many years after you quit?" Fawke Em Dec 2013 #219

It's about probability. eqfan592 Dec 2013 #249

They did the same thing to my father nilesobek Dec 2013 #260

It's sickening how abusive some people are to smokers Mariana Dec 2013 #269

The plural of anecdote is not data. eqfan592 Dec 2013 #122

And fyi BellaKos Dec 2013 #290

The throat cancer probably was from smoking. SheilaT Dec 2013 #153

Happened to me klook Dec 2013 #182

My husband quit and gained 100 pounds. Fawke Em Dec 2013 #211

All problems are math problems. In Washington, this represents a $3285 annual problem. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #96

Smoking prohibitions in bars and restaurants have been wildly successful, and are to be applauded alcibiades_mystery Dec 2013 #13

+1000! n-t Logical Dec 2013 #15

People can adapt.. SoCalDem Dec 2013 #19

Bars are still packed, though alcibiades_mystery Dec 2013 #23

Like I said.. people adapt SoCalDem Dec 2013 #32

We now go outside HockeyMom Dec 2013 #41

Going outside isn't "finding a way." It's following the law. alcibiades_mystery Dec 2013 #48

At the end of the day, few really care what you do to yourself ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #83

It did happen Go Vols Dec 2013 #58

As an aside.. IrishAle Dec 2013 #81

Thanks for the back-up! Fawke Em Dec 2013 #233

As I mentioned upthread, there are places in the Fawke Em Dec 2013 #222

Irrelevant alcibiades_mystery Dec 2013 #235

Six Years After Ban, Smoking Returns to NYC's Bars and Clubs Go Vols Dec 2013 #248

A friend of mine owns a very popular bar/restaurant in CA Demobrat Dec 2013 #21

After 40 years, NO HockeyMom Dec 2013 #22

ROFL alcibiades_mystery Dec 2013 #29

no shit this is hillarious.... dionysus Dec 2013 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Dec 2013 #172

this puts your disdain of health care and doctors in a new light,thanks for sharing. dionysus Dec 2013 #37

My thoughts exactly. nt eqfan592 Dec 2013 #126

+1000 former9thward Dec 2013 #46

You don't often meet people who take addiction as a point of pride. Scootaloo Dec 2013 #85

I'll be honest--I wondered how well that would go over when they first brought it up. MADem Dec 2013 #34

I remember when my mom used to smoke in the grocery store. Codeine Dec 2013 #73

Yep--I remember that as well! nt MADem Dec 2013 #157

Remember people emptying the ashtrays in the parking lots? Gotta keep the car clean, after all. Hekate Dec 2013 #299

It's nice to sit in a bar or restaurant without having to breathe in the carcinogenic smoke. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #130

Technicaly, smoking bans are regulations, not prohibition Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #302

See, you anti-smokers? HockeyMom Dec 2013 #17

LOL, OK, I guess I need to start smoking to get a heater. n-t Logical Dec 2013 #27

thread win MattBaggins Dec 2013 #33

I think your glee is misplaced. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #30

I think your glee is misplaced passiveporcupine Dec 2013 #45

you're claiming you were born with pneumonia because your mother smoked while pregnant?!!?! azurnoir Dec 2013 #55

I can't claim it as fact passiveporcupine Dec 2013 #57

yes however infection in the amniotic fluid itself could be the culprit azurnoir Dec 2013 #70

I'm not surprised passiveporcupine Dec 2013 #88

I have an agenda-really lol no agenda simple reality azurnoir Dec 2013 #107

You are positing a world-wide conspiracy to inflate statistics pnwmom Dec 2013 #143

no I posted 2 experiences from my own life azurnoir Dec 2013 #154

It would be pointless to present your "anecdotal evidence pnwmom Dec 2013 #156

but they are signifigant in this order azurnoir Dec 2013 #158

Now you're implying that public hospitals are less ethical with their patients pnwmom Dec 2013 #162

I stated that this particular hospital does have a reputation azurnoir Dec 2013 #164

you kinow what this tired really really tired azurnoir Dec 2013 #165

it's really not glee Skittles Dec 2013 #65

I'll bet those O2 cylinders are even more expensive than the cigarettes. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #97

I'd rather have my health and deal with the minor inconvenience of the chilly air... Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #131

all the restaurants i have been to have heaters outside in case it gets cold JI7 Dec 2013 #334

Old asthmatic here Warpy Dec 2013 #20

+1 nt laundry_queen Dec 2013 #112

Except lots of times, when it's outdoors, the secondhand smoke drifts wherever it wants to. raccoon Dec 2013 #184

If it's not concentrated enough to set off my asthma, it's OK Warpy Dec 2013 #193

Glad you had a nice night, but it doesn't change the fact that you have an addiction... joeybee12 Dec 2013 #25

Hope you got a photo for your family album... Tikki Dec 2013 #26

Personally, I don't believe in willingly encouraging someone to harm themselves 1000words Dec 2013 #31

I have to disagree Warpy Dec 2013 #61

former smoker here LittleGirl Dec 2013 #35

Heh, I'm with you. EC Dec 2013 #44

Make-a-wish? hedgehog Dec 2013 #47

oh shit! dionysus Dec 2013 #263

Clearly, you are a person of high intellect and quick comprehension! hedgehog Dec 2013 #264

lighten up, i missed your post onthe first read-through! dionysus Dec 2013 #265

Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #50

Don't choke on your self-righteousness. And happy holidays to you, too. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #63

Nice story. And a nice owner. Bet she doesn't have much worry about competition. jtuck004 Dec 2013 #51

Good for you! trof Dec 2013 #53

I quit smoking 22 years ago and STILL think this is a cool story. Only on very rare Rowdyboy Dec 2013 #54

Smokers should be treated like lepers. CSStrowbridge Dec 2013 #59

Just stay far away from me. Thank you. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #62

You see it as self righteousness demwing Dec 2013 #78

I'm not being self-righteous... CSStrowbridge Dec 2013 #135

wrong approach Skittles Dec 2013 #67

That might work, if... CSStrowbridge Dec 2013 #140

HM is a classic case of hard-core addiction Skittles Dec 2013 #145

5 years on DU and you come up with this? HangOnKids Dec 2013 #170

"I don't give me any shit about personal rights" HangOnKids Dec 2013 #175

Oops. CSStrowbridge Dec 2013 #216

Are you living in this polluted world? HangOnKids Dec 2013 #281

Your post completely lacks logic. Two harms do not make a right. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #303

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Dec 2013 #308

Goody! Please go take care of the oppresssed! HangOnKids Dec 2013 #309

What are you a Democrat for? Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #310

+100 darkangel218 Dec 2013 #319

Holy Shit! I despise oppresed people? HangOnKids Dec 2013 #341

309 Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #342

Of Course That Is Exactly What My Post 309 Said HangOnKids Dec 2013 #345

When did you give up driving exactly? Also, I hope there is no wood burning fireplace in your house. idwiyo Dec 2013 #177

Logical fallacies are not a good argument. CSStrowbridge Dec 2013 #224

Using products that cause huge environmental damage is optional. One doesn't have to have a phone, idwiyo Dec 2013 #239

Lepers did not choose leprosy & are not infectious. Smokers chose smoking & transmit their smoke. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #304

Maybe homegirl Dec 2013 #60

The OP didn't put down anybody HangOnKids Dec 2013 #171

Smoking/not smoking is part of the same calculus of life we all deal with in our own ways. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #64

Young health nuts? I'm a health nut because I'm not a nicotine junkie? Codeine Dec 2013 #66

I don't have a problem with going outside to smoke. janlyn Dec 2013 #68

I don't hate smokers. I just don't want them smoking around me. Someone drinking around me does.... Logical Dec 2013 #76

I'm happy you had a nice time, but I hope you will consider quitting the cigs. MerryBlooms Dec 2013 #71

Smoking stinks demwing Dec 2013 #72

I'm always impressed by what shaming is licit and what is not. malthaussen Dec 2013 #74

People aren't generally lepers by choice, Codeine Dec 2013 #77

Is that what it is? malthaussen Dec 2013 #82

I find them both disgusting on a personal level and I don't do either of them. Codeine Dec 2013 #86

Lepers don't contaminate the air from a distance Nitram Dec 2013 #84

I'm not young... Nitram Dec 2013 #80

Thanks for chiming in HangOnKids Dec 2013 #176

I'll help you out. Nitram Dec 2013 #363

My Reading Comprehension Is Fine HangOnKids Dec 2013 #364

My one regret about quitting smoking... ljm2002 Dec 2013 #90

That's the one thing I miss too dflprincess Dec 2013 #139

I agree with that assessment Skittles Dec 2013 #147

I am glad you had a good time and I dont judge smokers. rhett o rick Dec 2013 #92

No flaming Mira Dec 2013 #95

Good for them. We need more people like that who respect the rights of adults to make decisions sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #98

That's a completely goofy comparison. eqfan592 Dec 2013 #128

We as a society have to pay for those who kill people on the road every day. Having experienced sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #146

I did absolutely no such thing. eqfan592 Dec 2013 #180

Total lack of logic in your posts. Another harm does not mitigate or deny the first harm. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #192

The new ten year study on second hand smoke has finally put to rest the nonsense, never proven with sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #213

Sabrina dad sent me, almost to the ER, due to smoking nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #223

I don't want to smoke, but I don't want to stop others who want to either. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #271

except it has not been debunked nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #272

Post it. It is incomplete & deals with only one illness. Tons of evidence linking death & passive Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #226

I'd love to see a link to the new ten year study passiveporcupine Dec 2013 #268

LOL, I'm drunk too! n-t Logical Dec 2013 #266

I wonder how the waiter felt to have smoke blowing in his face? taught_me_patience Dec 2013 #99

Because that must be what happened. hughee99 Dec 2013 #105

Maria was also a very smart businesswoman HockeyMom Dec 2013 #100

People cannot smoke in businesses in my state. Codeine Dec 2013 #101

Elder person here. About the smoking roody Dec 2013 #102

+1 nt Codeine Dec 2013 #104

Nice of Maria to do that. Brigid Dec 2013 #106

Well that's a switch MadrasT Dec 2013 #110

Marijuana was originally made illegal because it was a way of keeping blacks and hispanics away Bonobo Dec 2013 #117

I don't have hatred towards smokers. I have hatred towards the industry and the habit itself. eqfan592 Dec 2013 #132

ROFLMAO... "We don't hate the sinner we hate the sin".. SomethingFishy Dec 2013 #347

I don't believe in "sin." I'm an atheist. eqfan592 Dec 2013 #348

Well you should consider that you have no idea what I have "love" for.. SomethingFishy Dec 2013 #353

So I'm guessing you have a tough time with mirrors then? eqfan592 Dec 2013 #355

Nope just with cowards who hide their hate SomethingFishy Dec 2013 #356

Please, feel free to actually attempt to highlight my "hypocrisy" in my post. eqfan592 Dec 2013 #357

Pot was made illegal to keep away blacks and Hispanics???? Beacool Dec 2013 #149

Look back to the 1920's and 1930's. nt Bonobo Dec 2013 #152

Don't you know Cirque du So-What Dec 2013 #236

Early anti-marijuana laws were very explicitly aimed at Mexicans. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #234

Thanks, I really didn't know that. Beacool Dec 2013 #250

Tobacco Industry Is Evil yellowwoodII Dec 2013 #118

I recently went into a restaurant in a state that still allowed smoking in restaurants. bluestate10 Dec 2013 #121

Pointless. nt PrestonLocke Dec 2013 #127

It's nice that you met a nice lady and that you had a nice evening! nt cry baby Dec 2013 #129

Here's hoping one day you will quit! nt Raine Dec 2013 #134

Good for Maria! She made it to the ripe old age of 70. JDPriestly Dec 2013 #138

I'm glad that you had a great time. Beacool Dec 2013 #148

I'm glad you had such a wonderful night. Jasana Dec 2013 #150

This message was self-deleted by its author russspeakeasy Dec 2013 #151

After 40 years I finally stopped. DeSwiss Dec 2013 #155

Smoker here BellaKos Dec 2013 #160

And my dad, who died at 87 nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #203

Damn it all. BellaKos Dec 2013 #279

Well you should try this anecdotal evidence you have nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #280

Funny you should mention the CDC BellaKos Dec 2013 #282

Yup, they cook all at CDC and at the Surgeon General nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #285

Well, I'm glad you're able to "chuckle." BellaKos Dec 2013 #286

Ah, I think Carl Sagan fits here, like a glove nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #315

Finally! BellaKos Dec 2013 #320

And I will now welcome you to my ignore list nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #324

nadinbrzezinski/Yes, wus out. LOL n/t BellaKos Dec 2013 #325

Welcome to the Iggy list! zappaman Dec 2013 #326

Good for you. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #161

My favorite posts... hurple Dec 2013 #163

The OP started it by anticipating 'health nuts' posting here muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #181

I believe my sig line adequately expresses my sentiments. small D democrat Dec 2013 #199

ALL smokers are sisters and brothers - and some day we shall be free Douglas Carpenter Dec 2013 #166

I don't mind stepping outside to smoke Prophet 451 Dec 2013 #167

E-cigarettes - are a LOT, LOT cheaper as well. Since I quite smoking about a year and a half ago Douglas Carpenter Dec 2013 #168

I enjoyed smoking. I like vaping even better. Mariana Dec 2013 #318

I guess smokers are "persecuted" the way Christians are in this country... fujiyama Dec 2013 #179

Ever since I found out Doc Holliday Dec 2013 #183

I think it is always sweet when you find a kindred spirit, and always sweet tblue37 Dec 2013 #185

With my allergies I cannot be in a room with smokers - TBF Dec 2013 #186

Last year I was asked repeatedly if I was or were a smoker. The reason my doctors asked me .... marble falls Dec 2013 #188

Emotions cover up the point on smoking mdbl Dec 2013 #189

If I go to that restaurant, can I get treated like a queen for having unprotected sex? MNBrewer Dec 2013 #194

Congratulations on the most random comment in this thread...nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #232

Well, I don't smoke, but I was wondering if other forms of self-destructive behavior MNBrewer Dec 2013 #270

LOVE THIS !!!!! Howler Dec 2013 #195

Sorry, don't agree this is a good story HelenWheels Dec 2013 #196

Erm... It appears you didn't read the story. She was outside... ScreamingMeemie Dec 2013 #198

My mother has smoked for 77 years. dinger130 Dec 2013 #197

93... Agree with the doc nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #206

Yep. That's what we used to say about my grandfather laundry_queen Dec 2013 #283

Enjoy the special treatment nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #200

nadin, I'm sure she realizes all the heath problems possible d/t smoking. polly7 Dec 2013 #215

I just pointed out the attitude nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #220

I'm really sorry about your Dad, that's a hard thing to watch. polly7 Dec 2013 #227

The last two years he was on O2 almost 24/7 nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #238

I agree that referring to people who object to smoking as young health nuts isn't polly7 Dec 2013 #241

Why the cigs are bad for you nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #247

the phrase attention whore comes to mind dlwickham Dec 2013 #201

Harsh. nt. polly7 Dec 2013 #218

And "young health nuts" is ok? Hissyspit Dec 2013 #225

wtf? polly7 Dec 2013 #229

allowing someone to poison those around her with second hand smoke is not kind dlwickham Dec 2013 #245

maybe dlwickham Dec 2013 #244

No, it doesn't. nt. polly7 Dec 2013 #246

And the jury results are in... aikoaiko Dec 2013 #252

I can't help noticing that while... TreasonousBastard Dec 2013 #209

Lots of the pubs in the UK have outdoor heaters for smoking areas dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #217

Misery likes company ann--- Dec 2013 #228

There is a great book to read. It's from an author named Alan Carr. Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #237

I remember years ago frazzled Dec 2013 #240

you have been copycatted ... sincerest form of flattery, I hear Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #243

Wow ! There a lot of self righteous and mean spirited people on this post. russspeakeasy Dec 2013 #256

The reason why has just occurred to me. BellaKos Dec 2013 #284

Are we supposed to applaud the fact that you smoke? kestrel91316 Dec 2013 #258

Why, yes you are! BellaKos Dec 2013 #287

Do you think calling DUers 'nuts' is condescension too? muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #307

hmmm Interesting question. BellaKos Dec 2013 #321

OK, we get that you don't understand the science muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #322

Well, I understand ... BellaKos Dec 2013 #323

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #267

Awesome! I'm gonna start teaching my grandchildren how to smoke as soon as they start school! Zorra Dec 2013 #275

Don't care what drugs you choose to abuse RedCappedBandit Dec 2013 #276

Sounds awesome! We smokers don't receive kindness very often. Tx4obama Dec 2013 #289

Glad you enjoyed your evening out and made a new friend. My daughter started at age 12... Hekate Dec 2013 #294

If you really wanna' be scared. BellaKos Dec 2013 #297

So glad you had a lovely time! JNelson6563 Dec 2013 #305

OK ...I'm going to start smoking. Free food is a deal maker. L0oniX Dec 2013 #311

OK. pecwae Dec 2013 #312

i socially smoke and i dont think its nutty for nonsmokers to not want to be exposed La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2013 #333

I went to see my Aunt in the hospital in London last year.. HipChick Dec 2013 #337

"Your 25 inch waist and 32 inch hips put you at risk of a HEART ATTACK" HockeyMom Dec 2013 #339

Just to point out, your stories are most likely untrue, you seem to have a chip on your... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #340

I worked for a public school district in Florida HockeyMom Dec 2013 #344

Every post you've made in this thread: Codeine Dec 2013 #349

At ease. Smoke em if you got em. Kingofalldems Dec 2013 #343

No consideration that Maria just liked your company? Barack_America Dec 2013 #346

Judging from the content and tenor of her posts Codeine Dec 2013 #350

I will agree with that HockeyMom Dec 2013 #362

Well HM you got them all going... SomethingFishy Dec 2013 #351

This thread is still around? Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #352

Well then it's a good thing you didn't post it... SomethingFishy Dec 2013 #354