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tomp

(9,512 posts)
31. not trusting government and business....
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 08:47 AM
Dec 2013

....seems to me to be an eminently sane starting point, from which, based on available undeniable evidence of systemic corruption, one could hardly go wrong.

There's an old example from medical schools, where the professor of medicine tells students, "25% of what I'm going to teach you is wrong. The problem is, I don't know which 25% it is."

I recently attended a lecture by an eminent medical researcher (I mean absolutely mainstream, highly recognized and honored, eminence gris) suggesting that shifts in the human microbiome, caused by use of antibiotics, particularly, but not exclusively, in cattle, is likely responsible for our epidemic levels of obesity. If that is true, and it really does seem likely, what's to say vaccines don't have similar unintended consequences. However, the bias is so strong against the anti-vaccinationists, that it's even hard to trust supposedly scientific studies purporting to disprove their views.

The facile dismissal of anti-vaccination opinion is part and parcel of a culture gripped by media propaganda. We should be open to varied opinion. I recommend that truly open-minded people take a closer look at the fundamental arguments against vaccinations.

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k&r idwiyo Dec 2013 #1
Vaccines. And now my kids don't die... SidDithers Dec 2013 #2
That's the only real reason I know of for not getting immunized. As long as only a few... Hekate Dec 2013 #3
My mother lost four siblings to the Spanish Flu. Rozlee Dec 2013 #10
du rec. xchrom Dec 2013 #4
I really don't get this anti-science backlash... Jasana Dec 2013 #5
It's not from the left Lordquinton Dec 2013 #8
The most anti vaccine folks I know Rainforestgoddess Dec 2013 #14
Yep. wildeyed Dec 2013 #33
Ok, honest I don't know for sure but... Jasana Dec 2013 #18
Your second paragraph... yes Hekate Dec 2013 #19
Another part of the rise in autism is the broadening of the definition of it jmowreader Dec 2013 #27
That could certainly warp the stats even more... Jasana Dec 2013 #28
I don't think I'd classify Jenny McCarthy as 'right-wing'. Drunken Irishman Dec 2013 #25
It's a right wing idea Lordquinton Dec 2013 #26
No, but I do think that a lot of the anti-vaccination/ anti-'modern' medicine attitude is linked to LeftishBrit Dec 2013 #29
No, it's not... SidDithers Dec 2013 #30
there are anti-vax people here on DU progressoid Dec 2013 #34
Yeah, no. Not so. Butterbean Dec 2013 #35
Anti-science almost entirely from the right. Where you get "this one seems to be from the left"? nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #12
I know people both from the right and from the left who are anti-vaccine gollygee Dec 2013 #16
+1. I know vegans that are anti-vax, pro-animal rights, against fossil fuels, the MIC, etc. freshwest Dec 2013 #21
not trusting government and business.... tomp Dec 2013 #31
"Opened to varied opinion" is problematic in the case of science. Like Fox News "Fair and Balanced" Moonwalk Dec 2013 #36
I've looked at both sides. The temperment of most posts don't reflect that. And DU is ideological. freshwest Dec 2013 #37
K&R. nt RiffRandell Dec 2013 #6
married to a woman how was immune suppressed due to chemo dembotoz Dec 2013 #7
k&r! nolabear Dec 2013 #9
Herd immunity is awesome, and your friend. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #11
"I get vaccinated not just for myself, but for everyone around me." slipslidingaway Dec 2013 #24
Frontline did a program on Vaccines a couple of years ago - The Vaccine Wars Hestia Dec 2013 #13
Frontline mockmonkey Dec 2013 #15
K&R n/t X_Digger Dec 2013 #17
k/r 840high Dec 2013 #20
We are all part of the herd. JBoy Dec 2013 #22
Thank you, my husband will have some boosters in February ... slipslidingaway Dec 2013 #23
This is a huge issue! I'm shocked when people from my generation are anti vaccine. mountain grammy Dec 2013 #32
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