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Showing Original Post only (View all)Dear Pres. Obama: Dissent isn’t Possible in a Surveillance State (By Juan Cole) [View all]
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Dear Pres. Obama: Dissent isnt Possible in a Surveillance State
By Juan Cole | Dec. 11, 2013 |
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In his stirring eulogy of Nelson Mandela, South Africas first president to be legitimately elected, by the entire South Africa people, President Barack Obama said,
There are too many of us who happily embrace Madibas legacy of racial reconciliation, but passionately resist even modest reforms that would challenge chronic poverty and growing inequality.
There are too many leaders who claim solidarity with Madibas struggle for freedom, but do not tolerate dissent from their own people. And there are too many of us who stand on the sidelines, comfortable in complacency or cynicism when our voices must be heard.
I am not an armchair politician who holds the real ones in contempt. Politics is hard. Most of us dont have the patience or the stamina for it. Hammering out a compromise among persons with strong egos and entrenched ideologies is a talent and a skill that I admire. Those puritans who demand consistency and decry hypocrisy, who scoff at bargaining, may admire their own unsullied characters alone in their rooms, but they will never actually accomplish anything good for people. Barack Obama has the patience of a Job, in the face of an opposition party that has declared itself not a loyal opposition but a deadly enemy.
So it is not lightly or glibly that I use the occasion of Obamas heartfelt speech to upbraid him. But the contradictions in his sentiments and his actions here are too extreme, too glaring to pass without rebuke.
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The kind of information being gathered without a warrant not only by the National Security Administration but by a wide range of law enforcement and intelligence agencies has the potential for making dissent impossible. Most effective protest of the sort Mr. Obama praised in his speech is illegal. Often, the laws themselves are wrong, as with the latticework of Jim Crow legislation that subjected African-Americans or the enactments of the South African parliament in the Apartheid era. Breaking wrong laws is key to much of the social progress the world has made in the past century. Gandhi, whom Obama cited, formulated a policy of nonviolent noncooperation, which involves law-breaking. The governments aspiration to total information awareness about all human beings will be deadly to conspiring to break the law or carrying it out.
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Dear Pres. Obama: Dissent isn’t Possible in a Surveillance State (By Juan Cole) [View all]
kpete
Dec 2013
OP
it provides way too much leverage to executives that won't be as saintly as Obama
nashville_brook
Dec 2013
#37
Yes. Because the NSA retains copies of the telecom data, dissent is impossible.
JDPriestly
Dec 2013
#20
The NSA has all the data on your communications and can link them to the communications
JDPriestly
Dec 2013
#26
Lol! I chuckle everytime you trot out Bernstein. As tho his evaluation outweighs Gore, Kerry
riderinthestorm
Dec 2013
#28
I think that is part of Obama's problem in dealing with this overly zealous security apparatus
JDPriestly
Dec 2013
#23
I think your assumptions are off. Criticism of the surveillance state is a criticism of the
rhett o rick
Dec 2013
#39
We havent lost all dissent yet. But Occupy proved that those in Power will go to
rhett o rick
Dec 2013
#42
Good grief. You have no argument here. You want to claim you are only pointing out what you
rhett o rick
Dec 2013
#47
The irony in the comments on this OP dissenting with policy while claiming they cant is unbelievable
stevenleser
Dec 2013
#54
It's really not a problem. If you don't say anything against the regime, you're safe.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Dec 2013
#18
As we know in Madison, POLITICAL CONTROL OF POLICE is an essential element
HereSince1628
Dec 2013
#21