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In reply to the discussion: Treated like a Queen FOR Smoking at Office Christmas Party [View all]alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)We were told that if a full smoking ban were put into effect, people would shun the bars - they'd fail, oh woe!
Bullshit. It simply never materialized. Go the the bar areas in NYC, in Chicago. No smoking. Period. Not, oh, there's smoking here but not there: no smoking. The bars are packed. The restaurants are packed. There was no drop off.
The arguments of the pro-smoking contingent were plainly and simply false. The ban has hurt nobody.
It's telling that both people denying the success of these smoking bans end up referencing municipalities that allowed these 21 Club and similar loopholes. You simply have no leg to stand on when it comes to municipalities that put FULL smoking bans into place. They have been completely successful, and none of the negative consequences predicted by their opponents have materialized AT ALL. San Francisco. Los Angeles. New York. Chicago. (Notably, some of these even have some minor "cigar club" loopholes - taken up by almost nobody, because they don't need to). No smoking. No problem. The opponents were wrong.