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Mc Mike

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20. You posted a couple of informative sub-threads in your o.p. s
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 03:11 PM
Dec 2013

in February this year and last November. One relates to this lie Rather was caught telling, and the other dealt with the motorcade route.

The first sub-thread had Bertrand Russell's reaction to the official story, the discussion of 'JFK shot from front', vs. 'shot from rear'. I tried the '16 questions' link you posted as a subthread in Feb, and couldn't get it to load, but it discussed the evolving and changing 'official story' which started by claiming that 'Kennedy was shot on Houston St.' as he approached the TSBD. If they could have held on to this first trial balloon official story, it would have explained the obvious frontal wounds to Kennedy. (Lord Russell's question #8.) Too many witnesses and too much evidence made that story untenable, so they had to admit Kennedy was on Elm when he was shot, therefore they moved the car to the correct position, and started lying that 'it was observable that Kennedy was shot from behind'. Which gives us Rather and the WC 'proving' a 'snap to the front' when Kennedy is shot in the head. Then that part of the 'official story' was shown to be bull hockey, so we now have the WC official story advocates moving on to the ridiculous 'physics' notion that a rear shot will cause the head to snap backwards violently.

They have had to keep changing the story to make it seem plausible, which makes me wonder how any 'official story' advocates can possibly pretend to argue from a position of being 'grounded in reality', and opposing the 'fanciful divorced from reality woo', of people that don't buy the official story.

My memory of one of your Russell posts was that he was describing his experience, being in England and hearing the initial news saying Kennedy was shot from the front, but I could be incorrect. The working 16 questions link that I found ( http://22november1963.org.uk/bertrand-russell-16-questions-on-the-assassination ) didn't have any personal story from Lord Russell in it, but maybe one of your links had more of a personal narrative from him, in addition to the questions.

Anyway, question # 7 in the '16 questions' link discussed the last minute route motorcade route detour, which put the President on the dangerous double turn route right beside the building where the lone nut had recently obtained a job, thanks to Ruth Paine. This ties into another informative subthread link you posted from last November, which showed that there was a route that hit the freeway from Commerce St., instead of going through the dangerous double turn. And Hepburn's book Farewell America said that Sen. Yarborough could remember being in previous motorcades which accessed the Stemmons Freeway ramp from Main instead of Elm, making a right by the 'no turns' sign, because traffic was stopped for the motorcade anyway. That's two other routes that avoided the dangerous double turn in the one area that was surrounded by high buildings.

In your last November o.p., I recall the WC advocates 'proving' that there wasn't a last minute change to the route by posting a 11/18 Dallas newspaper article that showed the route 'Main to Houston to Elm', but Russell describes an 11/22 article from the Dallas Morning News that has the route not leaving Main, though even a transfer from Main to Elm just 4 days before the event could be fairly called 'last minute', in a known hostile area like Dallas. Concerning the route, there is a lot of smoke blown by 'official story' advocates and others, trying to say the dangerous route was the only one possible, or trying to falsely pin the blame for the route on Ken O'Donnell or Bill Moyers. There is something about the people involved in the route planning and the timeline of the route planning that is causing the coup plotters to blow smoke, much the same way as the several different stories like Rather's about where, when and from what direction the President was shot. The Sol/Sam Bloom Agency, Protective Research Section, Sorrells and Lawson from the Secret Service, Crichton and local Dallas authorities all had a hand in shaping the route, from September up through Nov. 22. It shouldn't be such a difficult task to get a simple straightforward narrative that describes how a bad decision with such disastrous results came about, but the fact that the story is so jumbled is further proof that the assassination wasn't the work of a 'lone nut'.

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