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BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
57. Thanks to all who replied to my rather long post
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 07:05 PM
Dec 2013

As the child of a 45-year school teacher, even though I figured out very early on that teaching wasn't for me, it seems I always have a lot to say about it

I did love my school before all the changes. It was a place where students got a chance, really their last chance, to graduate from school. Some of the kids were hard core gang members and were straight from juvie--we even had a parole officer on site. Some had had severe disciplinary problems including threatening a teacher with a gun. Some were mothers and fathers of more than two children of their own. Most couldn't read or do any math above simple adding and subtracting. Some such poor or dysfunctional backgrounds, their stories made me cry. But the ones that really worked hard made amazing progress. I have never been to a high school graduation where every single person was literally sobbing with joy, gratitude and pride.

My students definitely taught me more than I they. I was straight out of grad school and couldn't get a job in my field so I was subbing a bit until I found something. I had been in schools so large they basically had police in every hallway. I had been assaulted in a junior high and given candy and gifts by third graders. But when I got to the continuation high school, though it was in a part of town you would never want to drive in at night and there were bullet holes in the windows of my classroom, it felt very different. When the students were changing classes the second day, I was walking through the halls. (This is actually the time that most fights start because the students are all milling around and not under the direct supervision of a teacher. At one of the schools I subbed in, a kid was stabbed walking to third period for looking at another boy's girlfriend.) There was the beginning of what looked like a big guy roughing up a smaller guy. But here, instead of a security guard yelling, "Hey, You!" and basically arresting the kid, I heard a teacher yell, "Hey, Ricardo, knock it off." The boy turned and smiled and said, "Sup Mr. C?" and totally forgot about the other kid and started telling this teacher about his weekend. All the teachers knew every student's name. It gave a family atmosphere. And I learned that many teenagers aren't ready to be thrown in the sea of giant high schools. I do believe that's why there is more school violence and suicide. Fourteen and fifteen year olds are not equipped to be that independent. They feel lost. In my school, they felt seen and like someone gave a damn about them. It made all the difference.

So that's just one of many long diatribes I have about education. The teacher-student relationship is not only the most important, it is the crux of education. Teachers should be supported in every possible way. We all have a favorite teacher, and almost always that was the person from whom we learned the most. So if we went back to dealing with the essentials, the teacher-student relationship, we might get a little further.

And if you read this far, thanks!

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YES!!!!! hollysmom Dec 2013 #1
Damn right BrotherIvan Dec 2013 #2
Actually... Veilex Dec 2013 #10
Bottom line is they are NOT "public schools" duffyduff Dec 2013 #11
Explaining the facts to you is not "making excuses." cleanhippie Dec 2013 #17
I appreciate your explanation, unlike the other poster. However, I would be very surprised rhett o rick Dec 2013 #21
Paying is often not necessary, but your observation about behavior problems is accurate. Also Squinch Dec 2013 #25
I hope those who are far more expert than I will chime in here BrotherIvan Dec 2013 #23
You summed this scam perfectly. Thanks on point Dec 2013 #29
This is worthy of it's own post. CrispyQ Dec 2013 #50
Well said and thank you. This IS the "Charter School" truth in my experience and research. mountain grammy Dec 2013 #52
Thanks to all who replied to my rather long post BrotherIvan Dec 2013 #57
Where do these current Charter Schools exist LeftOfWest Dec 2013 #28
Actually, I was mistaken there... Veilex Dec 2013 #56
Charter schools don't already exist in WA. They were voted in through a recent initiative El_Johns Dec 2013 #33
They'll try to change . . . aggiesal Dec 2013 #13
Yes allnews Dec 2013 #3
Agreed! Phlem Dec 2013 #4
I wish. kcr Dec 2013 #14
I agree, also….and Welcome to DU.. Tikki Dec 2013 #20
Kick grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #5
I agree with the judge in that case. JDPriestly Dec 2013 #6
Good. El_Johns Dec 2013 #7
Wow! Thanks for posting that. madfloridian Dec 2013 #8
K&R Grey Dec 2013 #9
Most charter schools are scams. jsr Dec 2013 #12
Wouldn't it be wonderful DamnYankeeInHouston Dec 2013 #15
Good ruling. Of course there will be an appeal. n/t JimDandy Dec 2013 #16
I'm a public school teacher. WinstonSmith4740 Dec 2013 #18
What do you mean that teachers don't need teaching degrees RebelOne Dec 2013 #34
Depends upon the state. WinstonSmith4740 Dec 2013 #36
After hearing the stories of my daughter's teaching experience RebelOne Dec 2013 #40
Whoa! Middle school? WinstonSmith4740 Dec 2013 #42
If your daughter teaches her whole career at that charter school... nikto Dec 2013 #44
Yeah! immoderate Dec 2013 #19
Fabulous news. Starry Messenger Dec 2013 #22
BOOM!! nikto Dec 2013 #45
Now, export this concept to all fifty states and start funding public schools properly! nt MADem Dec 2013 #24
Recommended and kicked a shit load...................nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #26
Let's see what happens on appeal. n/t malthaussen Dec 2013 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #30
The actual ruling: diddlysquat Dec 2013 #31
Happy to be the 100th Rec! nt. druidity33 Dec 2013 #32
When will voters come to our senses? Generic Other Dec 2013 #35
Any good Constitutional lawyer knows this. blkmusclmachine Dec 2013 #37
Finally... a ray of light ReRe Dec 2013 #38
I recced this earlier on. madfloridian Dec 2013 #39
Yeah, that was it. I scanned through the rec's but didn't see your name. n/t ReRe Dec 2013 #41
All straight now. madfloridian Dec 2013 #43
This is wonderful news!! A big THANK YOU to Judge Rietschel!! hue Dec 2013 #46
k&r idwiyo Dec 2013 #47
It's about damned time! CrispyQ Dec 2013 #48
I have no problem with Charter Schools, bvar22 Dec 2013 #49
The schools weren't ruled unconstitutional frazzled Dec 2013 #51
This sure is a way to massage the message... VPStoltz Dec 2013 #54
Hey, that's the AG's word, not mine frazzled Dec 2013 #55
my daughter attends a charter school Chakaconcarne Dec 2013 #53
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