Test links Winston's (Heisman trophy winner) DNA to accuser

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99. Uh-oh! If she was THAT drunk--i.e., so drunk that

she doesn't know what she consented to--then she was not in a condition in which she could legally consent to sex, so that would make it rape if she says she *didn't* consent once she has sobered up enough to realize that someone had sex with her while she was drunk.

Men need to learn NOT to see a totally drunk woman as an "opportunity," a chance to "get some" with someone who might not want to have sex if she were not thus incapacitated. When drunk, people sometimes do things that they are not at all willing to do when in full conscious control of themselves, which is why the "liquor is quicker" types use alcohol as a way of getting women into a condition in which they are not in control.

Sometimes a man will manipulate a woman into drinking more than she realizes, or more quicklly than she realizes, so that she becomes drunk before she realizes that is happening. Before date rape drugs were so easy to come by, that was a common trick. For example, in past years, young women who were at their first parties in college were often completely or almost completely inexperienced with alcohol, so they didn't have a clue how much they could handle. Or they could be given booze disguised by another taste, so they didn't realize how *much* they were drinking. Thus they became completely unable to make conscious, free choices when a guy started pressuring for sex or started pushing further than the girl was willing to go during a make out session that she had willingly entered into, but that she had never intended to end up leading to intercourse.

I knew a freshman girl in the early 1970s who was given screwdrivers with extra vodka when she attended her first frat party. She was not experienced with alcohol, and the orange juice flavor prevented her from realizing how much alcohol she was drinking, while her lack of built-up tolerance caused her to get drunk fast. She was easily pushed into having sex with a guy she didn't even know. Afterward, she became so depressed she couldn't function in school and ended up failing most of her clases and getting a D in the only one she didn't get an F in.

I don't know whether she had been a virgin before that night, but it is quite likely that she was, since virgins were much more common in 1972. If she was, then having been used that way by a stranger would have been doubly devastating. I also don't know whether she was the type whose religion would have made her feel especially guilty or dirty for it, though that is also something that was fairly common among college women at the time.

But my point is that if in fact she was *that* drunk, then the woman in this case was not capable of legally consenting to sex, so if this football player went ahead and had sex with her anyway, then he raped her.