General Discussion

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)

110. You've already judged, so stop pointing fingers. You've judged without hearing a single argument

Sun Dec 15, 2013, 02:25 PM

Dec 2013

in a court of law. You've judged without hearing arguments from BOTH prosecution and defense and without having instructions from an officer of the court. You've judged without debating/arguing with 11 other jurors who heard the same evidence as you.

"Personally, I believe a rapist has received the Heisman."

Stop pointing fingers and accusing others of "judging".

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

150 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Test links Winston's (Heisman trophy winner) DNA to accuser [View all] BainsBane Dec 2013 OP

Star athletes: A Protected Class. NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #1

and guys with snazzy websites BainsBane Dec 2013 #2

and Directors of National Intelligence n/t Enrique Dec 2013 #73

I don't think there was a dispute that they had sex Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #3

It's clear authorities threw the case BainsBane Dec 2013 #4

Of course, because he couldn't possibly be innocent Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #5

Read the fucking article BainsBane Dec 2013 #6

I read it, along with many others Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #7

Like 97% of rape cases BainsBane Dec 2013 #9

This isn't about other cases. There were witnesses interviewed Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #10

All we really know is that he "had sex". nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #11

True. Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #12

Do you think most women 'consent' to xulamaude Dec 2013 #13

The witnesses were in the other room until Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #15

That's not what I asked though. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #18

There are women who do and women who don't Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #22

And you know this from personal experience? nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #29

Yep Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #32

Well, I find that kind of creepy. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #33

Then don't go to Hedonism Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #34

How can you tell if a woman consents? BainsBane Dec 2013 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #41

The first sign is she doesn't say No. And the drunk ones are tricky, I usually stay away Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #43

"Usually stay away if they're sloppy drunk" xulamaude Dec 2013 #49

Yeah, usually...exceptions would be girlfriends or regular hookups Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #51

So sloppy drunk isn't a turn off for you? xulamaude Dec 2013 #52

Depends on the relationship with the female Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #53

Always stay away if a potential sex partner is impaired, even in the slightest way. nt bluestate10 Dec 2013 #111

Answer the question BainsBane Dec 2013 #42

Wow! You have quite the imagination. Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #45

That is illegal BainsBane Dec 2013 #48

Ahhhh...so I should assume every woman is being raped until they tell me they consented? Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #50

You should assume you have no right to have sex with a woman BainsBane Dec 2013 #54

I never assume the right to have sex with anyone. You can't even keep your posts straight Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #55

I asked about how YOU know if a woman gives consent. BainsBane Dec 2013 #58

It's disgusting how you keep trying to twist my words to fit Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #71

They seem pretty straight forward to me BainsBane Dec 2013 #75

Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #76

Yeah...as a neutral, uninterested observer... Shandris Dec 2013 #135

His teamamtes BainsBane Dec 2013 #16

You weren't there, you weren't involved in the investigation Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Dec 2013 #23

Actually you weren't. You experience and any other woman's experience is irrelevant Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #24

"woman's experience is irrelevant" BainsBane Dec 2013 #28

Good lord...you really have some issues Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #31

No she's not the one with issues. ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #35

Oh so you think Winston is guilty because of the facts in other rape cases Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #37

Here's some more rope, if you want it. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #46

One thing that always strikes me in these situations BainsBane Dec 2013 #56

That was an embarrassingly deceitful thing you just did. Marr Dec 2013 #115

And neither were you. Fawke Em Dec 2013 #25

I'm not the one accusing him of being a rapist Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #27

Why error on the side of stupid? Fawke Em Dec 2013 #30

You guys are precious - just adorable. xulamaude Dec 2013 #36

You're the one accusing the victim of being a liar BainsBane Dec 2013 #39

No where did I say she lied. I said, according to the police Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #40

If he's innocent, she lied BainsBane Dec 2013 #44

Are accusers infallible? Duke lacrosse case ring a bell? Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #47

Make up your mind BainsBane Dec 2013 #59

There's contradictory evidence...she was drunk Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #60

A drunk woman can't consent BainsBane Dec 2013 #63

The only thing that confounds me is your inability to allow Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #70

Uh-oh! If she was THAT drunk--i.e., so drunk that tblue37 Dec 2013 #99

Filing false charges should be a felony. EvilAL Dec 2013 #66

Too many? BainsBane Dec 2013 #79

DNA only proves they had sex. The 2 witnesses Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #81

How would they know? BainsBane Dec 2013 #84

Yeaaaahhhh...the police disagree with you Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #88

Well, bless your heart. historylovr Dec 2013 #125

One is too many as far as I am concerned. EvilAL Dec 2013 #96

One rape is too many. historylovr Dec 2013 #126

False charges are a felony, by the way BainsBane Dec 2013 #80

That's why I mentioned it EvilAL Dec 2013 #98

And do tell us how she faked all the cuts and bruises all over her body? BainsBane Dec 2013 #83

DNA doesn't prove anything but sexual contact Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #86

I'm not saying she's lying, EvilAL Dec 2013 #97

I don't defend rapists here or anywhere. EvilAL Dec 2013 #100

Amen. historylovr Dec 2013 #127

I don't know if it was rape or not, but I can understand the confusing evidence is a problem. Sancho Dec 2013 #103

One of the friends videotaped some of the incident, then deleted the video and discarded the LisaL Dec 2013 #121

the video was interesting... Sancho Dec 2013 #131

Hmmm.....153 posts. n-t Logical Dec 2013 #118

It gets really old... Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #8

Don't worry about it. The HeisTman is a joke, now. Fawke Em Dec 2013 #14

Why didn't OJ deserve the Heisman? Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #17

OJ should have won that damn thing twice. Moses2SandyKoufax Dec 2013 #20

I didn't say he didn't. Fawke Em Dec 2013 #26

I've re-read your post five times now... can't find the word "sullied". Point it out for me? n/t cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #107

What on earth makes you think I give a damn about a trophy? BainsBane Dec 2013 #19

I thought Manning Sgent Dec 2013 #57

Also, not to forget, Moses2SandyKoufax Dec 2013 #62

Woodson, Manning, and Leaf all had great years, but.... Saboburns Dec 2013 #130

OJ Simpson won the Heisman legitimately. He became a douche years later. nt bluestate10 Dec 2013 #112

This article is three weeks old and was written before the police decided that they wouldn't file Chakab Dec 2013 #61

Because it has to do with a woman whose life was destroyed by a rapist BainsBane Dec 2013 #64

Her life was destroyed? Really? She told contradictory stories Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #82

Funny thing is when a person is drunk to the point of half consciousness BainsBane Dec 2013 #87

I find it funny how you keep making up your own facts Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #89

I don't know what facts you think I'm making up. BainsBane Dec 2013 #90

Funny thing...either the cops don't know the law Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #94

That's just a "report", it reflects nothing Soundman Dec 2013 #109

Old news quaker bill Dec 2013 #65

The police took nine months to bother investigating BainsBane Dec 2013 #68

DNA doesn't prove rape and video from a bar Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #77

Did you notice a complaint? quaker bill Dec 2013 #150

There was also other DNA present, from the accused's "boy friend" Doctor_J Dec 2013 #95

Let a JURY DECIDE. Ilsa Dec 2013 #67

Exactly.. sendero Dec 2013 #69

Exactly wrong. former9thward Dec 2013 #101

Exactly.. sendero Dec 2013 #104

Prosecutors DO get a conviction almost every time. former9thward Dec 2013 #105

You are trying to conflat my example. sendero Dec 2013 #106

And had he gone to trial and walked, you'd still claim he was a rapist Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #72

Would I? Who's JUDGING whom now? Ilsa Dec 2013 #91

You've already judged, so stop pointing fingers. You've judged without hearing a single argument cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #110

Then the case should be tried in a court of law. Ilsa Dec 2013 #128

When the internet decides a person is guilty, a jury's decision isn't enough Penicilino Dec 2013 #74

Yeah, just like the victim will always be called Ilsa Dec 2013 #92

A jury trial wasn't enough in the Zimmerman case davidn3600 Dec 2013 #85

Would I? Who's JUDGING whom now? Ilsa Dec 2013 #93

Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #102

Ah, yes. The old "throw it against a wall to see if it sticks" approach. lightcameron Dec 2013 #134

Had the accused denied having had sex with the accuser? Penicilino Dec 2013 #78

Nope. Never denied it. lightcameron Dec 2013 #136

That information is old information. It was known by law enforcement. Because a person's bluestate10 Dec 2013 #108

Fascinating how so many complain more about a two week old story BainsBane Dec 2013 #117

Here's the issue for me gollygee Dec 2013 #113

How do you know when they deleted the video? woolldog Dec 2013 #114

Well that brings up a different problem gollygee Dec 2013 #116

First of all, woolldog Dec 2013 #119

How do we know when it was deleted? Easy. LisaL Dec 2013 #120

The point wasnt when the video was deleted.... woolldog Dec 2013 #122

Well you could have fooled me. LisaL Dec 2013 #123

Yes, IF that is true, woolldog Dec 2013 #124

Problem is she wasn't drunk according to the toxicology Finnmccool Dec 2013 #129

That's not true. LisaL Dec 2013 #132

That would mean impaired not drunk Finnmccool Dec 2013 #133

If she went driving with that BAC, nobody would be saying she wasn't drunk. LisaL Dec 2013 #138

I believe the accuser claimed she was blackout drunk woolldog Dec 2013 #140

And BAC of 0.1 can obviously cause impairement since it's above the legal limit to drive. LisaL Dec 2013 #141

It's nowhere near blackout drunk. woolldog Dec 2013 #142

Not even drunk? What on earth are you talking about? LisaL Dec 2013 #143

Lisa woolldog Dec 2013 #144

OMG. LisaL Dec 2013 #145

.... woolldog Dec 2013 #146

You seem to have a different definition of "drunk" than everybody else. LisaL Dec 2013 #147

Was she driving? woolldog Dec 2013 #148

And with that I'm headed to bed. woolldog Dec 2013 #149

She also lied when she told police she didn't know Jameis Winston. lightcameron Dec 2013 #137

I don't know whose photos are on twitter. But I presume they are not of the accuser. LisaL Dec 2013 #139