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Vattel

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23. Obama can be such a tool when it comes to national security.

Sun Dec 15, 2013, 08:17 PM

Dec 2013

He never proposed much-needed amendments to the war crimes act to ensure that waterboarding and other harsh interrogation techniques were unambiguously criminal under federal law. He is now a disciple of John Yoo when it comes to his understanding of a president's war powers, having involved the nation in war in Libya without Congressional approval and having explicitly asserted that he has the unilateral authority to wage war in Syria. He has sat on his hands as the NSA abused its authority and violated the law. He bought into the increase in troop levels in Afghanistan. He has assassinated American citizens without due process or judicial oversight. His DOJ participated in the witch hunt prosecution of Drake (NSA whistleblower).

Not an impressive record.

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The President has suppressed the 6,000 page torture documents. [View all] truedelphi Dec 2013 OP

Imagine what would happen if governments and corporations became as transparent BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #1

haven't they done this before G_j Dec 2013 #2

Transparency isn't what it used to be, anymore. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #3

That's For Sure! We need to send them Dictionary Definition KoKo Dec 2013 #28

You know who else doesn't want transparency? vi5 Dec 2013 #4

Except Transparency was a part of the Obama platform, 2008. truedelphi Dec 2013 #5

Perhaps when he insisted on insisting for transparency R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #34

I'm having one fitted tomorrow, they just don't believe me Rex Dec 2013 #50

Yep, I think we must've misunderstood who was going to be transparent, it was us. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2013 #51

Was it added to The List? vi5 Dec 2013 #38

"Most transparent administration in history," my ass. woo me with science Dec 2013 #6

Well it all depends on the references... zeemike Dec 2013 #9

+1 If the Third Way has taught us anything, woo me with science Dec 2013 #29

They did start releasing the WH visitor logs MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #42

Aren't they CLEVER?! woo me with science Dec 2013 #48

ACLU: Senate Torture Report and CIA Reply - FOIA ProSense Dec 2013 #7

Thank you for that additional valuable information. n/t truedelphi Dec 2013 #11

When and if they get it..I wonder how much of the content will be redacted. Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #14

Frankly, it's likely to be ProSense Dec 2013 #32

"lets Bush off the hook" R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #35

The "effectiveness" is not an excuse. Torture is torture and ALWAYS illegal war crime on point Dec 2013 #41

Produced by Diane Feinstein. That does not recommend it. JDPriestly Dec 2013 #45

Thx ProSense, the FUD here is so full of shit uponit7771 Dec 2013 #54

Please Mr. President, please don't obstruct release of these torture documents so the whole world, indepat Dec 2013 #8

Don't hold your breath over that one. L0oniX Dec 2013 #24

Do we have another American hero to do the job that the officials won't do? erronis Dec 2013 #25

Makes Obama party to the war crime itself. Release it now, throw Bush and cronies in jail on point Dec 2013 #10

This is from Reuters, a different take Progressive dog Dec 2013 #12

These documents would sully our image in the eyes of the world. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #13

Too late is right, but they're worried about lawsuits, of all persuasions. Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #16

I would love it if Snowden had a copy to release on this. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #36

The report lets Bush off the hook..and that is no surprise...the top bananas Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #37

I'm sure there's a very good reason. Brickbat Dec 2013 #15

I'm sure there is. mwrguy Dec 2013 #22

These are republican crimes. Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #17

Depends on what you consider a threat is to national security. cstanleytech Dec 2013 #18

Suppress for one year according to the article OKNancy Dec 2013 #19

"No one is above the law...." Except torturers and other war criminals if they live in America. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #20

The United States is keeping this quiet because it's evidence of violating muliple treaties. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #21

Obama can be such a tool when it comes to national security. Vattel Dec 2013 #23

Indeed..but we are told "He is under threat for his life..as all US Presidents" KoKo Dec 2013 #27

You're told that? TroglodyteScholar Dec 2013 #46

About ten days ago, Someone here on DU posted how early on, truedelphi Dec 2013 #53

Well, I'm pretty sure what "you're told" is directly from a Bill Hicks stand-up comedy routine... TroglodyteScholar Dec 2013 #59

Who is telling you this? Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #57

So this is how it feels to be a citizen of a rogue superpower. n/t Alkene Dec 2013 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author SidDithers Dec 2013 #30

Conor Freisderdorf is a Paulite libertarian....nt SidDithers Dec 2013 #31

I know you won't answer, but is that relevant? nt Bonobo Dec 2013 #33

It was just a matter of time NuclearDem Dec 2013 #39

Pathetic DesMoinesDem Dec 2013 #40

So that makes transparency a bad thing? neverforget Dec 2013 #43

Asking that poster to avoid ad hominems Vattel Dec 2013 #44

Yep. Sad but true, it would appear.....nt AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #55

Oh, but we can't point that out... SidDithers Dec 2013 #56

Our country, the great USA committed horrible evils nilesobek Dec 2013 #47

Watch the past and future tenses there. woo me with science Dec 2013 #49

I'm so disappointed in this president. Th1onein Dec 2013 #52

The president sides with torturers again LittleBlue Dec 2013 #58