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bornskeptic

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10. That is not what Alexander said

Mon Dec 16, 2013, 09:37 AM

Dec 2013

He said there are only 50 to 60 people who are considered American persons, meaning who are American citizens or permanent residents or are currently in the US, who are targets of surveillance. There are no doubt hundreds, or more likely thousands, of non-Americans who are targets. The vast majority of NSA assets are engaged in monitoring those people and foreign governments, including North Korea, Iran, China, and Russia.

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So, if the 60 Minutes segment on the NSA were true . . . [View all] markpkessinger Dec 2013 OP

No kro32 Dec 2013 #1

sorry, your premise is bogus grasswire Dec 2013 #2

+1 nt markpkessinger Dec 2013 #3

Well with all due respect kro32 Dec 2013 #4

But BellaKos Dec 2013 #7

The best upgrade that could happen randr Dec 2013 #11

They're storing fucking data on Americans. Is that the upgrade we need? Th1onein Dec 2013 #30

'I have no idea how poorly or perfectly their old systems operated.' Rex Dec 2013 #40

+1 and rec merrily Dec 2013 #5

Bogus bogus bogus! Enthusiast Dec 2013 #13

How can you be sure, given that this administration is not transparent, except merrily Dec 2013 #6

Perhaps we should upgrade other things first? n2doc Dec 2013 #8

+1 for exposing the real threats that Americans face everyday. Scuba Dec 2013 #9

Absolutely! infrastructure is a far greater ROI. n/t hootinholler Dec 2013 #14

nice point n/t fishwax Dec 2013 #34

What utter nonsense, do you really think people are going to buy this? If you are concerned about sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #19

Thanks for your words of wisdom Keith LondonReign2 Dec 2013 #25

You don't know Jack. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #27

And besides all of this doublespeak, what IS that reason? Th1onein Dec 2013 #29

That is not what Alexander said bornskeptic Dec 2013 #10

The truth is that they are tracking everyone. Savannahmann Dec 2013 #15

And one of them was the Boston Bomber, yet with all this money and effort and surveillance, they sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #20

They are building a kind of surveillance time machine KurtNYC Dec 2013 #35

So far the threat from terrorists etal randr Dec 2013 #12

Thank you, I just made the same points above. Children being murdered right here in the US in their sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #21

For what is being spent there should NEVER EVER be a terrorist attack or shooting or bombing or uponit7771 Dec 2013 #16

Except the NSA is for external, not internal, threats. randome Dec 2013 #17

There's been external attack... I have to bring up the B word but it comes to mind... uponit7771 Dec 2013 #18

You mean Boston? But that was an internal threat, not extenal. And the ball was clearly dropped. randome Dec 2013 #22

How many 'terrorists' have they caught as a result of all this surveillance? Feinstein says we are sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #23

Feinstein should keep her mouth shut unless she has facts to back up what she says. randome Dec 2013 #26

Feinstein is in a far better position to know what she is talking about than anyone here on this sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #28

I think most people are upset that it didn't confirm their fears. politichew Dec 2013 #24

Our fears have already been confirmed, kiddo. We're upset about the LIES. Th1onein Dec 2013 #31

Not a kid. nt politichew Dec 2013 #36

Wow! What a fact-filled response to my post! Th1onein Dec 2013 #38

Learn to talk to people with respect and maybe they will humor your paranoia. nt politichew Dec 2013 #39

Yeah, that's the ticket! I see the respect you got in that post, kiddo! Th1onein Dec 2013 #41

To spend a billion dollars plus for a "purported" storage facility - is all the B.S. banter that one laserhaas Dec 2013 #32

You must have watched a different 60 minutes than the one last night ksoze Dec 2013 #33

Fair enough, but . . . markpkessinger Dec 2013 #37

None. There is none. That is why you see all the lame excuses being thrown out there. Rex Dec 2013 #42

US Persons is a subset of People jmowreader Dec 2013 #43