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markpkessinger

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37. Fair enough, but . . .

Mon Dec 16, 2013, 01:50 PM

Dec 2013

. . . what, then, is the justification for collecting and storing the internet activity, the content of electronic communications and telephone metadata for virtually every American, both here and abroad?

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So, if the 60 Minutes segment on the NSA were true . . . [View all] markpkessinger Dec 2013 OP

No kro32 Dec 2013 #1

sorry, your premise is bogus grasswire Dec 2013 #2

+1 nt markpkessinger Dec 2013 #3

Well with all due respect kro32 Dec 2013 #4

But BellaKos Dec 2013 #7

The best upgrade that could happen randr Dec 2013 #11

They're storing fucking data on Americans. Is that the upgrade we need? Th1onein Dec 2013 #30

'I have no idea how poorly or perfectly their old systems operated.' Rex Dec 2013 #40

+1 and rec merrily Dec 2013 #5

Bogus bogus bogus! Enthusiast Dec 2013 #13

How can you be sure, given that this administration is not transparent, except merrily Dec 2013 #6

Perhaps we should upgrade other things first? n2doc Dec 2013 #8

+1 for exposing the real threats that Americans face everyday. Scuba Dec 2013 #9

Absolutely! infrastructure is a far greater ROI. n/t hootinholler Dec 2013 #14

nice point n/t fishwax Dec 2013 #34

What utter nonsense, do you really think people are going to buy this? If you are concerned about sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #19

Thanks for your words of wisdom Keith LondonReign2 Dec 2013 #25

You don't know Jack. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #27

And besides all of this doublespeak, what IS that reason? Th1onein Dec 2013 #29

That is not what Alexander said bornskeptic Dec 2013 #10

The truth is that they are tracking everyone. Savannahmann Dec 2013 #15

And one of them was the Boston Bomber, yet with all this money and effort and surveillance, they sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #20

They are building a kind of surveillance time machine KurtNYC Dec 2013 #35

So far the threat from terrorists etal randr Dec 2013 #12

Thank you, I just made the same points above. Children being murdered right here in the US in their sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #21

For what is being spent there should NEVER EVER be a terrorist attack or shooting or bombing or uponit7771 Dec 2013 #16

Except the NSA is for external, not internal, threats. randome Dec 2013 #17

There's been external attack... I have to bring up the B word but it comes to mind... uponit7771 Dec 2013 #18

You mean Boston? But that was an internal threat, not extenal. And the ball was clearly dropped. randome Dec 2013 #22

How many 'terrorists' have they caught as a result of all this surveillance? Feinstein says we are sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #23

Feinstein should keep her mouth shut unless she has facts to back up what she says. randome Dec 2013 #26

Feinstein is in a far better position to know what she is talking about than anyone here on this sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #28

I think most people are upset that it didn't confirm their fears. politichew Dec 2013 #24

Our fears have already been confirmed, kiddo. We're upset about the LIES. Th1onein Dec 2013 #31

Not a kid. nt politichew Dec 2013 #36

Wow! What a fact-filled response to my post! Th1onein Dec 2013 #38

Learn to talk to people with respect and maybe they will humor your paranoia. nt politichew Dec 2013 #39

Yeah, that's the ticket! I see the respect you got in that post, kiddo! Th1onein Dec 2013 #41

To spend a billion dollars plus for a "purported" storage facility - is all the B.S. banter that one laserhaas Dec 2013 #32

You must have watched a different 60 minutes than the one last night ksoze Dec 2013 #33

Fair enough, but . . . markpkessinger Dec 2013 #37

None. There is none. That is why you see all the lame excuses being thrown out there. Rex Dec 2013 #42

US Persons is a subset of People jmowreader Dec 2013 #43