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truedelphi

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53. About ten days ago, Someone here on DU posted how early on,

Mon Dec 16, 2013, 04:34 PM

Dec 2013

Obama was told To watch his P's and Q's. And that after being told that, he decided to be less progressive and more hard line militant.

I have no idea if that is the case or not.

But I imagine if he had been all that progressive to begin with, he'd never have been allowed to run to begin with.

I mean, Kucinich really was progressive, with a voting record that proved it, and look at how effectively the PTB marginalized him.

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The President has suppressed the 6,000 page torture documents. [View all] truedelphi Dec 2013 OP

Imagine what would happen if governments and corporations became as transparent BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #1

haven't they done this before G_j Dec 2013 #2

Transparency isn't what it used to be, anymore. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #3

That's For Sure! We need to send them Dictionary Definition KoKo Dec 2013 #28

You know who else doesn't want transparency? vi5 Dec 2013 #4

Except Transparency was a part of the Obama platform, 2008. truedelphi Dec 2013 #5

Perhaps when he insisted on insisting for transparency R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #34

I'm having one fitted tomorrow, they just don't believe me Rex Dec 2013 #50

Yep, I think we must've misunderstood who was going to be transparent, it was us. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2013 #51

Was it added to The List? vi5 Dec 2013 #38

"Most transparent administration in history," my ass. woo me with science Dec 2013 #6

Well it all depends on the references... zeemike Dec 2013 #9

+1 If the Third Way has taught us anything, woo me with science Dec 2013 #29

They did start releasing the WH visitor logs MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #42

Aren't they CLEVER?! woo me with science Dec 2013 #48

ACLU: Senate Torture Report and CIA Reply - FOIA ProSense Dec 2013 #7

Thank you for that additional valuable information. n/t truedelphi Dec 2013 #11

When and if they get it..I wonder how much of the content will be redacted. Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #14

Frankly, it's likely to be ProSense Dec 2013 #32

"lets Bush off the hook" R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #35

The "effectiveness" is not an excuse. Torture is torture and ALWAYS illegal war crime on point Dec 2013 #41

Produced by Diane Feinstein. That does not recommend it. JDPriestly Dec 2013 #45

Thx ProSense, the FUD here is so full of shit uponit7771 Dec 2013 #54

Please Mr. President, please don't obstruct release of these torture documents so the whole world, indepat Dec 2013 #8

Don't hold your breath over that one. L0oniX Dec 2013 #24

Do we have another American hero to do the job that the officials won't do? erronis Dec 2013 #25

Makes Obama party to the war crime itself. Release it now, throw Bush and cronies in jail on point Dec 2013 #10

This is from Reuters, a different take Progressive dog Dec 2013 #12

These documents would sully our image in the eyes of the world. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #13

Too late is right, but they're worried about lawsuits, of all persuasions. Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #16

I would love it if Snowden had a copy to release on this. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #36

The report lets Bush off the hook..and that is no surprise...the top bananas Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #37

I'm sure there's a very good reason. Brickbat Dec 2013 #15

I'm sure there is. mwrguy Dec 2013 #22

These are republican crimes. Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #17

Depends on what you consider a threat is to national security. cstanleytech Dec 2013 #18

Suppress for one year according to the article OKNancy Dec 2013 #19

"No one is above the law...." Except torturers and other war criminals if they live in America. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #20

The United States is keeping this quiet because it's evidence of violating muliple treaties. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #21

Obama can be such a tool when it comes to national security. Vattel Dec 2013 #23

Indeed..but we are told "He is under threat for his life..as all US Presidents" KoKo Dec 2013 #27

You're told that? TroglodyteScholar Dec 2013 #46

About ten days ago, Someone here on DU posted how early on, truedelphi Dec 2013 #53

Well, I'm pretty sure what "you're told" is directly from a Bill Hicks stand-up comedy routine... TroglodyteScholar Dec 2013 #59

Who is telling you this? Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #57

So this is how it feels to be a citizen of a rogue superpower. n/t Alkene Dec 2013 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author SidDithers Dec 2013 #30

Conor Freisderdorf is a Paulite libertarian....nt SidDithers Dec 2013 #31

I know you won't answer, but is that relevant? nt Bonobo Dec 2013 #33

It was just a matter of time NuclearDem Dec 2013 #39

Pathetic DesMoinesDem Dec 2013 #40

So that makes transparency a bad thing? neverforget Dec 2013 #43

Asking that poster to avoid ad hominems Vattel Dec 2013 #44

Yep. Sad but true, it would appear.....nt AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #55

Oh, but we can't point that out... SidDithers Dec 2013 #56

Our country, the great USA committed horrible evils nilesobek Dec 2013 #47

Watch the past and future tenses there. woo me with science Dec 2013 #49

I'm so disappointed in this president. Th1onein Dec 2013 #52

The president sides with torturers again LittleBlue Dec 2013 #58