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mntleo2

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105. I would NEVER trust CPS or the legal system
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 09:44 AM
Mar 2012

Man whomever you are, you are pretty naive to think anyone in that CPS System does anything for a child, they are all about THEMSELVES.

I can tell you as a family preservation activist that all CPS and family court is about is the federal funding so they can keep their jobs and get their bonuses for every child they take. In order to get this Title IV funding the mandates say: "The more kids you take, the more money you make. If you return these kids home you will LOSE any present and future funding..." In addition to this the CPS worker and GAL can falsely accuse anyone, lie through their teeth in court and never have to face any repercussions. Even the police are afraid of them because if they don't cooperate CPS will come after their kids too.

This fear of CPS is a known and has a l-o-o-o-n-g history all over the nation beginning with the WA State Wenatchee Witch Hunt case in the late 1980s, continuing on in the McMartin case in CA in the early 1990s, and including the Massachusetts sex ring case during the same time. Nothing was ever done to these false accusers even though all these cases sent dozens of innocents to prison and took hundreds of kids into their corrupt System, costing more than any other cases in these state's history, were all proven to be false, complete lies.

As a matter of fact, after destroying people's lives, ripping apart their families and destroying people's careers, these false accusers used these lies to promote themselves into even higher positions that they hold to this day. One of the people responsible for the above cases is a MSW who was using children as her guinea pigs applying a now debunked "psychological method" that is called "False Memory Syndrome" that was used as fact in court. She is [i/]still an advisory to CPS and holds a high position at the University of Washington. Many of the prosecutors are holding high positions such as Attorney Generals, and several police elevated to higher positions for cases that were a bunch of wasted tax dollars based on false pretenses

Hate to say it as a Progressive myself, but many of these false accusers consider themselves "Progressives" and fool people like you into thinking they are "saving the little babies" when in fact they are merely using these children to get funding and promote their careers. The worst about this is that CPS is actually harvesting children of low income families in order to "sell" them to upper income people where everyone but the falsely accused rakes in the profits. Ignorant people think that even if falsely taken, these poor kids are "better off" if ripped from those who love them and put into a higher income home, right? WRONG! These kids are more likely to drop out of school, become teen parents, go to prison, 5-7X more likely to be abused in their "safer" homes, and become street kids. The 9th Circuit Court has shown that less than 15% of these kids are in dangerous situations ~ the rest could be left with their families and given services in Humphreys vs County of Los Angeles because "imminent danger and maltreatment and neglect" can merely mean the low wage family cannot afford heat in their homes, are homeless, have no daycare, are ill themselves with no medical insurance, or do not have enough food in their home.

I am in Las Vegas next week in protest at a conference of judges, social workers and juvenile court workers. I will be giving a workshop on "21 Ways CPS Takes Poor Children" but let me tell you, all they are using these low income children for is to create legal precedence for upper income people to take their kids if they so desire in retribution for "non-cooperation," to "make an example" and for many other reasons using "imminent danger" a legally vague term that can mean anything they want.

Let me repeat here: There are no repercussions, absolute immunity for these CPS workers and their rubber stamp GALs even if proven to have lied (committed perjury) in court. GAL agencies are themselves committing massive fraud bragging they go with CPS recommendations over 97% of the time and that "all accused are guilty" ( "Court Appointed Special Advocates" or CASAs as some are called). Their agencies collect Title IV $Millions for being a rubber stamp for CPS rather than being a federally mandated independent advocate for the CHILD, not CPS .

I have proven such perjury in court where all these people will never face so much as a slap on the wrist for the lies they told and the lifelong trauma they caused to a child. After falsely accusing me and taking the love of my life I had cared for for 4 years (she was my grandniece). CPS then "overlooked" their own mandates for "imminent danger" and jammed this little girl into an upper income family home, strangers to her, who had just 6 months before lost their own toddler from a drowning in their unprotected adult sized back yard swimming pool. Not a thing will happen to any one of these people. Not one thing. The adopters will collect monthly $$$$ for being so nice as to adopt the child, CPS workers who falsely accused will keep their jobs and get bonuses, the CASA will continue get the $5,000,000 a year they get for their lies, and family court judges will continue to make a 6 figure wage while knowing they were all lies.

Paul is right and his wife should be able to see her kids. All his family were to CPS and the family court was $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. They could give a crap about the beautiful little girl whose picture you see, the family they destroyed and for the hundreds of families they destroy every day. All they care about is making more jobs for themselves and they well know that, in the future when many of these traumatized kids grow up they will be more fodder for their careers.

CPS, GALs, The Adoption and Foster Care Industrial Complex, and family court can:

*Ignore Constitutional rights of the child (no due process, illegal search and seizure)
*Ignore the Constitutional rights of the accused (no due process, parental rights, falsely accused have no legal representation)
*Commit perjury without repercussions
*Withhold crucial evidence proving innocence
*Refuse to investigate
*Make arbitrary decisions
*Make decisions that are based on false psychological methods by "experts" they pay to say whatever they want the court to hear
*Commit fraud openly and with impunity by collecting government funding under false pretenses
*Force medications that are detrimental onto the child (that they receive funding to administer)
*Force the child into abusive families (whatever they decide is "abusive" or not "abusive" is their criteria based on vague and quite woo-woo "facts" with little or no basis)
*Have their "feelings" considered as fact in court with no other basis to prove they are legitimate
*Totally ignore any parental or family proof of knowledge about the child, the situation or any other intimate knowledge and replace this as "fact" in court with their "feelings."
*CPS is literally going into low-income housing and reaping every single child one-by-one and then putting them up for sale, knowing the falsely accused cannot adequately defend themselves. I have documented this in WA State, PN low-income housing, GA transitional housing, and MI low income housing sites.

There is much, much more that most "regular" courts would not consider that is allowed in family court.

NJTraveler, those "closest to the situation" are never heard because Family court and CPS shuts them down. If you "follow the money," you will know why this happens or remain ignorant if you don't. In your ignorance, may these people *never* come after you!


Cat in Seattle

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I'm so sorry for everything that happened to your family. The Media looking for ratings are just Justice wanted Mar 2012 #1
Thank you, and I do very much like your screen name! :) Land Shark Mar 2012 #2
will do as soon as possible. Justice wanted Mar 2012 #13
"Better that a few be greatly injured than a whole state be troubled" Land Shark Mar 2012 #34
Kicking for later (nt) The Straight Story Mar 2012 #3
I truly do not know what to say except that I feel deep sympathy JDPriestly Mar 2012 #4
Thanks. I don't expect hallmark cards (they don't make them for this anyway) Land Shark Mar 2012 #20
Kick and recommend nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #5
It's understandable that you have no words, for I struggled SO HARD to find words myself. Land Shark Mar 2012 #14
Better Safe Than Sorry RobinA Mar 2012 #121
"Better safe than sorry" here means innocents get hurt. How's that fair or just? Land Shark Mar 2012 #124
Bookmarking for a reread tkmorris Mar 2012 #6
k&r to mark to read later and get past wtf is going on with you guys I am so sorry. uppityperson Mar 2012 #7
My heart goes out to you and your family. VenusRising Mar 2012 #8
Quite an ordeal. mmonk Mar 2012 #9
Good gawd, Paul, what a nightmare you and your family have been living! Mnemosyne Mar 2012 #10
Thanks. Some say "everyone who's dealt with CPS wants to sue CPS" Land Shark Mar 2012 #16
You have been through absolute hell and I pray it is resolved soon. Mnemosyne Mar 2012 #93
Be sure to kick this in the morning! sudopod Mar 2012 #11
recommend. Starry Messenger Mar 2012 #12
Thank you, Starry Mess... n/t Land Shark Mar 2012 #31
I'm so sorry. sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #15
I think you're right that I need some time to relax. (Thanks) Land Shark Mar 2012 #19
"Yes, my daughter did get a relatively minor abdominal knife injury" NCTraveler Mar 2012 #17
The legal cases are already over, and I was/am the "one closest to the situation." Land Shark Mar 2012 #18
I read you whole post. NCTraveler Mar 2012 #21
Oh, ok, I didn't catch that meaning of "closest to you" Land Shark Mar 2012 #24
"The effect of local press is pretty devastating" NCTraveler Mar 2012 #26
Here snooper2 Mar 2012 #38
and the worst cases were taken offline Land Shark Mar 2012 #41
Makes no sense for me to re-publish the MOST wrong things Land Shark Mar 2012 #84
"found guilty {sic} of attempted murder by reason of sanity {sic}" Land Shark Mar 2012 #85
I would NEVER trust CPS or the legal system mntleo2 Mar 2012 #105
Thanks for adding your experience to this thread! n/t Land Shark Mar 2012 #106
NCTraveler seems to have misunderstood the OP. nt 2 Much Tribulation Mar 2012 #110
Was any proof shown to you that no one was signing up mmonk Mar 2012 #22
Just a single phone call... Land Shark Mar 2012 #33
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Land Shark Mar 2012 #25
She was insane for... NCTraveler Mar 2012 #27
Kicking so I can read this more carefully tomorrow Duer 157099 Mar 2012 #28
I am aghast at all of this. truedelphi Mar 2012 #29
I didn't know there was a movement re CPS 2 Much Tribulation Mar 2012 #120
I ddn't (or don't) know abot CPS getting people's truedelphi Mar 2012 #122
Yes, there are microcosms in family court Land Shark Mar 2012 #125
wait. what? mdmc Mar 2012 #30
OH. MY. GOODNESS. OneGrassRoot Mar 2012 #32
The Joy of this girl is what came through to me as well. 2 Much Tribulation Mar 2012 #98
THANKS for seeing my daughter in this! Land Shark Mar 2012 #101
Here's link to the January, 2012 expose by 20/20 on Michigan CPS Land Shark Mar 2012 #35
well... TorchTheWitch Mar 2012 #36
Thanks for a very good example of the general problem here Land Shark Mar 2012 #39
Did she not plead not guilty by reason of insanity? LisaL Mar 2012 #45
Not guilty by reason of alibi or Whatever is a legal acquittal, but... Land Shark Mar 2012 #48
Not guilty by reason of alibi or Whatever is a legal acquittal, but... Land Shark Mar 2012 #49
Did you even read your own link? TorchTheWitch Mar 2012 #50
This is a toughie. I am inclined to agree with you and other skeptics. lapislzi Mar 2012 #53
Because you're willing to give your opinion, may I get your input on the following? Land Shark Mar 2012 #54
Hello? These are interesting questions from Land Shark for you to answer 2 Much Tribulation Mar 2012 #95
invited via PM to reply but nothing so far.... nt Land Shark Mar 2012 #102
The State's doctors say she's Asymptomatic for 9 months now Land Shark Mar 2012 #56
Oh Puleeeze mntleo2 Mar 2012 #113
KICK mntleo2 Mar 2012 #117
kick for mntleo2's comments, msgs interspersed in the range of 105-117 Land Shark Mar 2012 #118
How.... vile. Occulus Mar 2012 #42
Vile? Give me a break. LisaL Mar 2012 #44
Even if either of you were Miz Clio and able to diagnose someone over the intertubes EFerrari Mar 2012 #89
Incompetence or persecution? (assuming no other choices, of course) Land Shark Mar 2012 #90
Like this? EFerrari Mar 2012 #91
+1 Land Shark Mar 2012 #92
Lack of human kindness is putting it nicely, these people are ... mntleo2 Mar 2012 #115
You sing it Brotha! mntleo2 Mar 2012 #114
As far as I gather, there was no trial. LisaL Mar 2012 #43
Correct, there was no trial because the Prosecutor gave up, said he couldn't win at trial Land Shark Mar 2012 #55
Since she plead not guilty by reason of insanity, I presume prosecutor LisaL Mar 2012 #57
You have a misunderstanding about insanity and criminal procedure Land Shark Mar 2012 #61
People can make pleas during arraignment LiberalEsto Mar 2012 #62
Right. But it happened on the previously set trial date Land Shark Mar 2012 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author chrisa Mar 2012 #60
K&R alfredo Mar 2012 #37
Thanks Alfredo, for the kick and rec. nt Land Shark Mar 2012 #108
It is so hard to find the right words. robinlynne Mar 2012 #40
Thank you robinlynne (it seems you found your "right words"); I appreciate it a lot! n/t Land Shark Mar 2012 #68
can't you guys leave the state? mimitabby Mar 2012 #46
Paul I have to say all the work that you and Andy Stevens have done to bring about change in our midnight Mar 2012 #47
Thanks for the compliment, tho I tend to doubt my work has anything to do with it Land Shark Mar 2012 #76
This reminds me of what happened to a nurse right after F-5 tornado hit Joplin, MO Bryn Mar 2012 #51
THANK YOU! Can't everyone just accept that sometimes true tragedies occur, like that nurse? Land Shark Mar 2012 #58
My ex-husband used to sleep-walk. One night loudsue Mar 2012 #52
When I was in college... rbnyc Mar 2012 #59
Thanks for the example. I mean this in the nicest way: that's insane! Land Shark Mar 2012 #63
I too have seen sleep walking with my own two eyes. mmonk Mar 2012 #75
My mom, my brother and I have all sleepwalked. EFerrari Mar 2012 #82
How did you feel when you found yourself there? mmonk Mar 2012 #86
I don't remember. EFerrari Mar 2012 #87
You have a beautiful little girl varelse Mar 2012 #65
Thank you so much. She needs a mom & her mom Made her more than I Land Shark Mar 2012 #79
This is disturbing on so many levels. I can't imagine how you've had the strength to handle lib_wit_it Mar 2012 #66
Thank you for this good example and your thoughts Land Shark Mar 2012 #67
I'm so sorry your family is going through this. It must be very difficult. GardeningGal Mar 2012 #69
Thanks so much for your thoughts and offer here Land Shark Mar 2012 #74
I'm so sorry for what your family has been through magical thyme Mar 2012 #70
Thanks (and here's an example of the Kafkaesque nightmare you mention) Land Shark Mar 2012 #77
I am deeply sorry your families plight. I do have one question... EmeraldCityGrl Mar 2012 #71
trying to give a fair OVERALL impression here (read OP as a WHOLE) Land Shark Mar 2012 #72
Thank you. n/t EmeraldCityGrl Mar 2012 #73
Don't you mean, "Thank you, and I apologize for asking you a question, the answer to which I would lib_wit_it Mar 2012 #78
I don't know Paul and EmeraldCityGrl Mar 2012 #80
You know a little more now! :) Land Shark Mar 2012 #83
Thanks for proving my point, again. I clearly explained the problem, and your failure to grasp lib_wit_it Mar 2012 #88
I'm not aghast because I have dealt with the police and the state EFerrari Mar 2012 #81
I can see why you can relate based on the examples you give upthread Land Shark Mar 2012 #94
I'm still trying to figure out what kind of recovery is possible. EFerrari Mar 2012 #96
Thanks for this example of making it through (mostly) Land Shark Mar 2012 #97
Nami mdmc Mar 2012 #99
I'm sure they would have other roughly similar stories like those in the reply thread. nt Land Shark Mar 2012 #107
Kicking so I can come back later. Devil_Fish Mar 2012 #100
Thanks, and feel free to PM with questions, or ask them here. Land Shark Mar 2012 #103
kick 2 Much Tribulation Mar 2012 #104
"spacey and entirely sweet. She had nary a mean bone in her body or soul." Land Shark Mar 2012 #109
Family means the world. Devil_Fish Mar 2012 #111
Yes, and the world should be a family, too. Land Shark Mar 2012 #119
What a nightmare. Could moving to another state help? Liberty Belle Mar 2012 #112
There's more to the story than meets the eye here, Land Shark Mar 2012 #116
a late k and r nashville_brook Mar 2012 #123
kick 2 Much Tribulation Mar 2012 #126
Thank you for the welcome back, Paul. Joe Chi Minh Mar 2015 #127
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