General Discussion

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)

84. yes they did. results.

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:21 AM

Dec 2013

At Mon Dec 16, 2013, 09:00 PM you sent an alert on the following post:

I'm only offended when the woman is vain enough to be fearful I'd rape her .....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4187643

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

YOUR COMMENTS:

This is really over the top and sexist. To suggest a woman is too ugly to rape. Only the pretty ones are worth raping. Highly offensive in so many ways.

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Mon Dec 16, 2013, 09:10 PM, and voted 5-1 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: Dude. C'mon.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: Really? Don't be "that guy." Ever. Especially not out in the open for the rest of us to see.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

363 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Men should be offended . . . [View all] Triana Dec 2013 OP

im more offended by people saying that im raping my wife if we have sex after getting drunk leftyohiolib Dec 2013 #1

Who's saying that? radiclib Dec 2013 #10

He's trying to argue... CSStrowbridge Dec 2013 #53

that's funny no it's not my wife. there was a whole discussion here about this leftyohiolib Dec 2013 #132

Let me see if I understand you radiclib Dec 2013 #134

He's I think JackInGreen Dec 2013 #156

what he and others with this line are doing, is dismissing raping drunk, unconscious, unable to give seabeyond Dec 2013 #157

I've heard many others here, including you, make that very argument. EOTE Dec 2013 #158

post it. you are wrong. you NEVER heard me make the argument. post it. didnt happen seabeyond Dec 2013 #160

And if I do, would you admit you're full of crap? EOTE Dec 2013 #171

i have never said it. you threw shit out figuring it would stick. reality is, i didnt say. ever. seabeyond Dec 2013 #173

Read it and weep. Or read it and reminisce. Whichever floats your boat. EOTE Dec 2013 #174

ya. i said it was promoting raping an unconscious woman. that this is what our society seabeyond Dec 2013 #176

Unconscious women can't say "Don't stop fucking me." EOTE Dec 2013 #184

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Capt. Obvious Dec 2013 #204

Ha, thanks for the update. And she did, in fact, say that it's a male's wet dream to have sex with EOTE Dec 2013 #209

I'd bet a coke all of your posts in this thread were alerted on Capt. Obvious Dec 2013 #230

And I have a feeling you'd be one coke richer. EOTE Dec 2013 #232

Thats like... the worst kind of sex. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #250

It was movie, for Christ's sake! An idiotic (if mildly amusing) comedy film. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #328

ha... reading gwenolyn, i realize who she is on the new and improved du3. i know the poster seabeyond Dec 2013 #179

O, goodness! chervilant Dec 2013 #183

Ask myself if a woman saying that it's a man's wet dream to fuck something doesn't move is sexist? EOTE Dec 2013 #185

Your derision and condescension chervilant Dec 2013 #299

ha, didnt even read that. i dont read his posts. says i say sex with drunk wife is rape. seabeyond Dec 2013 #186

Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #188

It may be offensive, but it is a fetish. moriah Dec 2013 #214

Thanks for teaching me a new word... EOTE Dec 2013 #222

Well, I have to admit the bottom drugging themselves deliberately is not safe or entirely sane. moriah Dec 2013 #231

If I said "It's a woman's wet dream to marry a handsome, wealthy man", would I be speaking of women EOTE Dec 2013 #236

Women think of men as a homogenous group in too many cases. daybranch Dec 2013 #309

Right Amaril Dec 2013 #362

Why am I not surprised? chervilant Dec 2013 #296

And pretty hilarious that you'd mention my "history of hidden posts". EOTE Dec 2013 #189

Awwww, chervilant Dec 2013 #295

It's particularly galling when you consider the way Marr Dec 2013 #324

+10000 Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #190

you give a thumbs up to raping a woman unconscious? 1000 worth of thumbs up? nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #191

Only you would try to take this out of context. Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #194

i asked. no answer? then it is saying raping an unconsious woman is saying sex with drunk wife is seabeyond Dec 2013 #197

Are you saying that it's a man's wet dream to have sex with something that doesn't move? EOTE Dec 2013 #198

Unconscious girls don't tell the people they're having sex with to not stop fucking them. EOTE Dec 2013 #199

Just the same old thing eh? I don't play your games. Spin it however you like. Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #202

fuck.... give a thumbs up. i ask what the thumbs up is for. you backpedal and blame and seabeyond Dec 2013 #208

He/she was giving a thumbs up to your comment about men dreaming of fucking inanimate things. EOTE Dec 2013 #211

backpedal, change the goal post from what you accused me of. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #215

Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #217

no. sex with drunk wife is rape. that is what you accused me of. that is what i said i never said seabeyond Dec 2013 #223

Ahhh, OK. So you think that sex with a drunk woman who is NOT your wife is rape. EOTE Dec 2013 #224

fucking an unconscious woman is rape. you want to make a blurred line, that is on you. seabeyond Dec 2013 #227

And what about fucking a woman who asks you not to stop fucking her? EOTE Dec 2013 #228

i am not having a stupid conversation that makes date rape, ok. you posted, i said, it is rape to seabeyond Dec 2013 #234

So, would your position be this? EOTE Dec 2013 #238

i really do not give a flying fuck what you expect. you accused me of soemthing. you were wrong. seabeyond Dec 2013 #240

Like hell I was wrong. EOTE Dec 2013 #243

And are you SERIOUSLY not able to understand this? EOTE Dec 2013 #241

i am SERIOUSLY not reading your garbage. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #242

And not reading anything else by the looks of it. EOTE Dec 2013 #244

It could be rape. It depends on the situation whopis01 Dec 2013 #308

A certain percentage of men, unfortunately, yes. Your meaning is pretty clear to me at least. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #330

Lol!! Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #260

What you just did there really ought to earn you a ban, imho. Marr Dec 2013 #326

I did a search, and only found him saying the opposite in the past. Bradical79 Dec 2013 #165

interesting... seabeyond Dec 2013 #168

no what im saying is that if my wife and i are at home and are drinking and we have sex that leftyohiolib Dec 2013 #263

no im saying that if my wife And i get drunk and SHE wants to have sex that ( not that i dont ) leftyohiolib Dec 2013 #258

is your wife unconsciuos, comes to and slurs, why ya stooo.... and falls back to unconscious? cause seabeyond Dec 2013 #278

no my wife was never unconscious. my oringinal post was in reference to the thread in which leftyohiolib Dec 2013 #287

Or without consent... LanternWaste Dec 2013 #297

well of course leftyohiolib Dec 2013 #303

yes there was a very lengthy thread here a day or two ago leftyohiolib Dec 2013 #254

Apparently JackInGreen Dec 2013 #361

If your wife isn't interested in sex with you Aerows Dec 2013 #65

You hit the nail on the head! :) nt arthritisR_US Dec 2013 #78

Maybe he could try staying sober for a change Aerows Dec 2013 #89

You stated it so spot on! arthritisR_US Dec 2013 #124

It's going fairly well Aerows Dec 2013 #351

Who the fuck is saying anything about forcing sex on anyone? EOTE Dec 2013 #159

If one of those people Aerows Dec 2013 #312

oh i see where u got that let me fix that, not when i got drunk but when we, wife and i, leftyohiolib Dec 2013 #255

I don't see where I was "hating" Aerows Dec 2013 #313

maybe i misjudged your post for that i apologize and i chngd the post leftyohiolib Dec 2013 #341

"i know to alot of women men are always pigs in any situation so keep hatin" xulamaude Dec 2013 #321

spot on Supersedeas Dec 2013 #349

I don't think people are saying that at all Bradical79 Dec 2013 #153

yea it was during a disscussion on rape a few days ago but i didnt comment on it so now it cant find leftyohiolib Dec 2013 #342

Me either Aerows Dec 2013 #350

I'm offended by your apparent need to chervilant Dec 2013 #178

i know both my boys have been offended many times over by this mentality. and they do NOT seabeyond Dec 2013 #2

that does not surprise me in the least seabeyond. sheshe2 Dec 2013 #4

sigh... seabeyond Dec 2013 #11

+ 1,000,000,000 WillyT Dec 2013 #3

Preach iandhr Dec 2013 #5

thank you Triana. nt sheshe2 Dec 2013 #6

That stuff is demeaning to men. It says they are mindless animals... freshwest Dec 2013 #7

Ain't that the damn truth. arcane1 Dec 2013 #8

It's similar to radical Islam, AlbertCat Dec 2013 #26

trudat XemaSab Dec 2013 #9

Recommended! NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #12

That also pipi_k Dec 2013 #13

It's a no-brainer...if a woman doesn't want sex... Old and In the Way Dec 2013 #14

The irony is that it's (historically) men xulamaude Dec 2013 #15

As a man, it is easy...woman doesn't want sex Old and In the Way Dec 2013 #18

What's difficult about this? AlbertCat Dec 2013 #28

well phil89 Dec 2013 #166

. gollygee Dec 2013 #182

welcome to du. you might want to check out the books listed upthread to have a clearer niyad Dec 2013 #195

Thanks phil89 Dec 2013 #343

No. Hissyspit Dec 2013 #311

SO phil89 Dec 2013 #344

But what about rape? xulamaude Dec 2013 #33

Is this offensive? Major Nikon Dec 2013 #16

Are these guidelines regularly distributed to men in oreder to be xulamaude Dec 2013 #19

They are published by the largest American anti-sexual assault organization Major Nikon Dec 2013 #22

Yes, I am quite familiar with RAINN xulamaude Dec 2013 #29

Those are good guidelines and cautions for everyone. Common Sense Party Dec 2013 #34

Rape is not anything like the other crimes you list. xulamaude Dec 2013 #39

I'm referring to these bullet points: Common Sense Party Dec 2013 #43

well, it doesn't help at all with much more common acquaintance rape, does it? bettyellen Dec 2013 #50

So are you saying it's helpful to ignore the 1/3rd of rapes committed by a non-acquaintance? Major Nikon Dec 2013 #54

The original bullet points... CSStrowbridge Dec 2013 #59

The premise in the facebook meme makes a blanket statement Major Nikon Dec 2013 #105

Yep, I am saying it is a bad idea, in that it gives a VERY inaccurate picture of what rape is bettyellen Dec 2013 #93

I'm not sure how it's inadequate Major Nikon Dec 2013 #104

I asked a simple question. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #60

Which was a deft attempt to change the subject from what I had posted. Common Sense Party Dec 2013 #75

I'm flattered that you find me "deft" xulamaude Dec 2013 #83

Men (in general) don't require the same bullet points CFLDem Dec 2013 #40

I'm not sure what you mean by xulamaude Dec 2013 #44

With the caveat of my female rapists. nt CFLDem Dec 2013 #45

Still not clear on what you're saying. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #47

Your questions seem to be rhetorical Major Nikon Dec 2013 #42

My question is not rhetorical at all. xulamaude Dec 2013 #46

Neither was mine Major Nikon Dec 2013 #52

Okay - I'll go first but I'll expect answer from you: xulamaude Dec 2013 #58

You didn't answer the question Major Nikon Dec 2013 #76

Please. I did answer your question. Your turn: xulamaude Dec 2013 #86

Then you are saying you are offended by RAINN's guidlines Major Nikon Dec 2013 #103

As I said, I am very familiar with RAINN xulamaude Dec 2013 #106

women dont rape men. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #109

They most certainly do. Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #114

yes. 1% of rape is committed by women. 99% rape is committed by men. seabeyond Dec 2013 #115

It wasn't a matter of "got you," it was a matter of you presenting FALSE info. Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #116

It doesn't seem to be anything more than a red herring to begin with Major Nikon Dec 2013 #120

It is one of the reasons I like RAINN. Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #122

ya. it matters to pretend that 99% of the rape is not done by men. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #127

It matters to that "1%". Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #271

i have long before you called out the woman teachers raping their boy students along to the chides seabeyond Dec 2013 #279

I am not chiding. You made a false statement. Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #284

99% of rape by men and gender is not a factor? rape by other women? new porn fad? cause i know, seabeyond Dec 2013 #126

Do you think that factor makes the victim any more or less of a victim? Major Nikon Dec 2013 #138

i think you actually address the rapist and not all of society. yes. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #140

and then tell me nikon, when women do implement this men are outraged that a woman dared to seabeyond Dec 2013 #141

I addressed that at the time to you directly Major Nikon Dec 2013 #143

you address women as a whole accepting this. you do not address the men as a whole who are both, seabeyond Dec 2013 #145

be careful what you wear to prevent your rape is not to offend women. thru out the thread, look at seabeyond Dec 2013 #146

The RAINN guidance included no such recommendation Major Nikon Dec 2013 #152

which was EXACTLY my point like... last night. no shit. yet it is what is in the Op and what seabeyond Dec 2013 #154

and STILL you do not address the men offended on this thread, men offended when PSA is addressed seabeyond Dec 2013 #155

You might want to reconsider your position. chervilant Dec 2013 #192

Did you bother to check the FBI reporting standard?? LadyHawkAZ Dec 2013 #306

"The gender of the offender is pretty much irrelevant to the victim." xulamaude Dec 2013 #235

Which is why qualified the statement with "pretty much" Major Nikon Dec 2013 #251

Crazy-making. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #253

At sorority parties, in a parking garage or ally, at work, xulamaude Dec 2013 #113

Well then, I've waited long enough. xulamaude Dec 2013 #117

Then you never answered my question Major Nikon Dec 2013 #119

people have told you why it is offensive to talk about womens clothes, which rainne never did. yes. seabeyond Dec 2013 #131

No, we don't. Deep13 Dec 2013 #305

Why do they continue to put the onus onto women? Warpy Dec 2013 #88

76 yr old nun in her home. now, granted, probably didnt have a shot gun so ya... her fault seabeyond Dec 2013 #97

Exactly, the hussy! Warpy Dec 2013 #121

My blog post/article about that: Triana Dec 2013 #175

'safer' from rape by women? AlbertCat Dec 2013 #30

No but it sure is fucked up that it's considered nessisary ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #96

Thank you for a straight answer Major Nikon Dec 2013 #123

because major, every one of us women that have been raped know this "guidence" is bullshit and not seabeyond Dec 2013 #133

It does no such thing Major Nikon Dec 2013 #147

i do tell my niece to be aware and i KNOW that will likely have NOTHING to do with her rape. seabeyond Dec 2013 #149

I'm ignoring no such thing Major Nikon Dec 2013 #169

how many posts have i ASKED about the contradiction and STILL you do not address it. only how a seabeyond Dec 2013 #170

So that's your opinion Major Nikon Dec 2013 #187

so. again. the contradictions i have stated in a number of posts are ignored. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #200

Since your daughter is going to college next year, chervilant Dec 2013 #316

Read post upthread Major Nikon Dec 2013 #319

Guess who's not answering the simple question? xulamaude Dec 2013 #322

Because my private information is not up for dissemination Major Nikon Dec 2013 #325

No one asked you to divuldge the college you have chosen for xulamaude Dec 2013 #333

And I referred you back to the question you have yet to answer Major Nikon Dec 2013 #335

Asked and answered, counselor. xulamaude Dec 2013 #336

And I doubt any of your other questions ever get answered Major Nikon Dec 2013 #337

"Good faith discussion", eh? xulamaude Dec 2013 #338

You could google it Major Nikon Dec 2013 #339

Yes I suppose I could... xulamaude Dec 2013 #340

I don't get that chervilant Dec 2013 #345

We should do whatever reduces the incident rate of rape Major Nikon Dec 2013 #346

Okay, chervilant Dec 2013 #347

I've already read one out of your list Major Nikon Dec 2013 #348

There you go, chervilant Dec 2013 #352

Your intent was pretty clear Major Nikon Dec 2013 #353

You just cannot get outside chervilant Dec 2013 #354

... Major Nikon Dec 2013 #355

you want women to be hypervigilent at all times to protect themselves from rape. you KNOW seabeyond Dec 2013 #151

Yes it is. MadrasT Dec 2013 #136

I'm not going to say this guidance shouldn't be offensive to you Major Nikon Dec 2013 #142

I am certain #4 saved my young butt a couple of times. CrispyQ Dec 2013 #196

Anyone who blames the victim for being victimized probably meets the criteria of being an asshole Major Nikon Dec 2013 #256

then you will tell your daughter to be wary of the stranger in elevator at 4 and when asked seabeyond Dec 2013 #257

I'm not going to accept what any libelous poster tells me what I will or won't do Major Nikon Dec 2013 #259

you want to give it to the woman, and stay well away form men even having a part. yet....you seabeyond Dec 2013 #264

Did you ever answer my question on post #16? Major Nikon Dec 2013 #268

More crazy making. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #270

You've repeated this twice Major Nikon Dec 2013 #277

You don't know what "crazy making" is? xulamaude Dec 2013 #282

Thanks for the help Major Nikon Dec 2013 #285

no. it will contradict all you have been proclaiming. what would the question be. bring it to me seabeyond Dec 2013 #281

You haven't answered it either Major Nikon Dec 2013 #286

There's that 'libel' again! xulamaude Dec 2013 #265

he wants to give daughter only what does not encroach on male entitlement yet feel secure he seabeyond Dec 2013 #266

Do you not understand what libel is? Major Nikon Dec 2013 #272

I understand what libel is. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #274

yes saying i said a a drunk married couple a man was raping due to a movie of raping seabeyond Dec 2013 #283

will you tell her to preceive each date as a possible rapist and to be wary. will you tell your seabeyond Dec 2013 #262

Well, yes and no . . . MrModerate Dec 2013 #17

+1 CrispyQ Dec 2013 #206

+1 LadyHawkAZ Dec 2013 #307

You are mistaking.... AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #20

Well... I think when someone says this they are positing that *some* men are incapable of control, Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #21

"On college campuses, repeat predators account for 9 out of every 10 rapes" Major Nikon Dec 2013 #24

That's great! Squinch Dec 2013 #23

Yup, it offends me. nt Bonobo Dec 2013 #25

I get offended by safety guidelines at the nearby public swimming pool.. LanternWaste Dec 2013 #298

Not at all. Advice like that says nothing at all about men in general. Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #27

Why not make rapists responsible for their own behavior instead? n/t Triana Dec 2013 #36

They are. Advice on how to avoid evil people does not make one responsible for the evil... Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #41

There is no correlation... CSStrowbridge Dec 2013 #56

if only this 73 yr old woman had not dressed so sexy, she wouldnt have been raped. seabeyond Dec 2013 #62

Good heavens! Don't you know it's against the LAW xulamaude Dec 2013 #67

ya. i know. but the easiest source found and most everyone knows this story. seabeyond Dec 2013 #69

All of which might be interesting if it were not self evidently false... Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #125

how to prevent/avoid rape. so a woman is raped, she simply did not do enough. and NO, statistically seabeyond Dec 2013 #139

They are NOT HELD RESPONSIBLE for their own behavior. Their victims are. Triana Dec 2013 #180

Rape is about power and some Men think they gain some-sort-of-power by rape. BlueJazz Dec 2013 #31

I just assumed my penis was defective because it's never done that mythology Dec 2013 #32

It doesn't offend me; it cracks me up with it's asinine assumptions. It's not foolish, it's idiotic. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #35

The 'rapey vibe'... TeeYiYi Dec 2013 #37

Bingo. nt Deep13 Dec 2013 #38

well.. pipoman Dec 2013 #48

do you not go on dates? bettyellen Dec 2013 #99

Not sure what this has to do with anything I wrote... pipoman Dec 2013 #102

because it is rape prevention advice that is worth more than that list, but it's missing from it. bettyellen Dec 2013 #112

I agree that date rape is a separate issue.. pipoman Dec 2013 #128

i think it's because lists like this leave women unaware for the more common dangers- and also keep bettyellen Dec 2013 #314

This message was self-deleted by its author pipoman Dec 2013 #101

good post oldandhappy Dec 2013 #49

Exactly! BainsBane Dec 2013 #51

I've been seeing women dress in very sexy and tantalizing ways for almost all of my 58 years. MarianJack Dec 2013 #55

true misandry nt geek tragedy Dec 2013 #57

this is what i say. i say i am defending men all the friggin time. yet i am the man hater. seabeyond Dec 2013 #64

+2 nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #331

Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #61

So cleavah. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #63

It's a good thing DU doesn't have a misogyny problem. LeftyMom Dec 2013 #66

Seriously. Just wow. TDale313 Dec 2013 #70

only pretty girls deserve to be raped? seriously. wow. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #71

Well, jury hid that one, fortunately. TDale313 Dec 2013 #80

yes they did. results. seabeyond Dec 2013 #84

I wish they would insist people provide an explanation BainsBane Dec 2013 #94

we have had too many people declare they will never vote to hide a post. for different reasons. seabeyond Dec 2013 #98

No, of course not! BainsBane Dec 2013 #72

Omg, that is so cute!... TeeYiYi Dec 2013 #92

So if I think that a woman should not go certain places, because of what happens there, then my flvegan Dec 2013 #68

Hon, I love you, but women can go anywhere we fucking want. LeftyMom Dec 2013 #74

Didn't say that. flvegan Dec 2013 #82

Do you mean on dates? BainsBane Dec 2013 #81

The OP didn't mention "dates" it was a more broadbrush, wide open accusation. flvegan Dec 2013 #85

The OP didn't mention the location of assaults at all BainsBane Dec 2013 #91

Really? You should re-read the OP. flvegan Dec 2013 #100

I think you're misreading the intent. LeftyMom Dec 2013 #95

very well explained. thank you. bettyellen Dec 2013 #107

Thanks. LeftyMom Dec 2013 #110

That might be what we want it to say, but that's not what it says. flvegan Dec 2013 #108

When I rule the world every social movement will communicate effectively. LeftyMom Dec 2013 #111

Yeah, this may take a while. ElboRuum Dec 2013 #363

Rape isn't about base christx30 Dec 2013 #73

You are dead on! Thank you :) nt arthritisR_US Dec 2013 #77

Can somebody please post the jury results for post 61? LeftyMom Dec 2013 #79

it is up there lefty. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #87

"no explanation given" I should have known. LeftyMom Dec 2013 #90

I'm tired of the broad brush used to describe men. Nanjing to Seoul Dec 2013 #118

your infographic presupposes FatBuddy Dec 2013 #129

I hear that BS argument in India all the time Recursion Dec 2013 #130

If most rapes happen on dates or between people who know each other The2ndWheel Dec 2013 #135

Well said. Soundman Dec 2013 #164

I love ignorant things like this joeglow3 Dec 2013 #137

And the jury results are in... aikoaiko Dec 2013 #150

Jurer #2 gets it joeglow3 Dec 2013 #181

The difference is gollygee Dec 2013 #193

Actually, they are treated the same joeglow3 Dec 2013 #219

Impossible to determine who did it gollygee Dec 2013 #220

There is NO WAY you could scientifically believe that is true joeglow3 Dec 2013 #276

If you had spent much time listening to victims gollygee Dec 2013 #289

You equate that with burden of proof needed for a conviction joeglow3 Dec 2013 #290

Are we in court? gollygee Dec 2013 #291

That happens, I have no doubt joeglow3 Dec 2013 #292

I feel no burden to prove it to you gollygee Dec 2013 #293

Someone I loved went through it joeglow3 Dec 2013 #294

Why was it a dangerous situation? xulamaude Dec 2013 #301

It does offend me madokie Dec 2013 #144

How about be an adult svpadgham Dec 2013 #148

Isn't this the essence of the strict Islamic dress code for women. Men cannot control themselves pampango Dec 2013 #161

and the republicans. and the men that pornify all women for their entertainment. no, seabeyond Dec 2013 #163

read post 201, with quotes blaming jyoti singh pandey for the horrific gang-rape that ended her life niyad Dec 2013 #213

Disgusted more than offended seveneyes Dec 2013 #162

Presuming all men are rapists in a culture is advantageous for misogynists and the patriarchy. Dash87 Dec 2013 #167

perfectly said. thank you. post 151. no one would dare address. but it is the reality we give seabeyond Dec 2013 #172

+1 n/t Triana Dec 2013 #177

You are right. nt laundry_queen Dec 2013 #248

a few quotes from rape culture niyad Dec 2013 #201

one would think they would be, but it never seems to dawn on them, as they defend this kind of niyad Dec 2013 #203

totally amazing. demand the woman accept how not to be raped. dont address the contradiction of seabeyond Dec 2013 #207

and, of course, the usual derailment of the discussion to make us forget the woman-hating that niyad Dec 2013 #218

yup. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #226

seems pretty dumb to pretend men's natural state isn't rapist Egnever Dec 2013 #205

of course they can control. they choose not to. that simple. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #210

takes nothing from the fact that our natural state is rapist. Egnever Dec 2013 #212

i do not think mens natural state is rapists. so we disagree. now, some would say me thinking men seabeyond Dec 2013 #229

I completely disagree with that gollygee Dec 2013 #233

So let me understand this. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #216

or. women should not be offended when told how to prevent their rape. yet, men are offended seabeyond Dec 2013 #237

it offends you that we have to keep posting about the way patriarchy treats rapists and their niyad Dec 2013 #247

I find it intriguing when I'm told what I should and should not be offended by. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #273

and yet, we are told what we may or may not post because it offends you. funny how that works. niyad Dec 2013 #323

The "simple solution" is to push back. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #327

the simple solution is for the rapists to stop raping. PERIOD. niyad Dec 2013 #329

Hear, hear!!! Beacool Dec 2013 #221

It seems as though the point of this graphic went well above many people's heads. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #225

Oh I think a lot of people get it... I just don't think they feel obliged to respond to it sibelian Dec 2013 #246

ya. first you were for until you decided you were suppose to be against. i saw. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #249

This message was self-deleted by its author sibelian Dec 2013 #239

It takes a certain degree of empathy, self-awareness, and ability to project for Zorra Dec 2013 #245

a thread women are told we must not be offended taking responsibility preventing our rape. yet, men seabeyond Dec 2013 #252

Who doesn't treat strange men warily? The2ndWheel Dec 2013 #267

there have been threads both in gd and mens group saying how unfair it is women treat men like this. seabeyond Dec 2013 #269

I can't speak about the threads on here The2ndWheel Dec 2013 #280

Not to be nitpicky neffernin Dec 2013 #315

You've Got To Pick Up Every Stitch BKH70041 Dec 2013 #261

non consensual heaven05 Dec 2013 #275

As a man, I'm secure enough not to be. MirrorAshes Dec 2013 #288

This whole argument is a mess. DirkGently Dec 2013 #300

"Don't we all actually agree that the problem is rape culture" xulamaude Dec 2013 #320

This message was self-deleted by its author neffernin Dec 2013 #356

The "positive side"? xulamaude Dec 2013 #357

this is how my 78 yr old father in laws dismisses rape and womens issue. you should be thankful seabeyond Dec 2013 #358

I find the whole discussion a mess as well libodem Dec 2013 #360

If your intent is to rape someone, then bingo you are a rapist. Rex Dec 2013 #302

Exactly! LeftishBrit Dec 2013 #304

It also presumes that men act by animal instinct. In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #310

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #317

That "someone" is often religion and cultural traditions. gtar100 Dec 2013 #318

Females (and to a lesser extent, males) of all ages, from infancy to advanced old age, are potential nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #332

Nope, I'm not offended. obxhead Dec 2013 #334

I sometimes get offended ... JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2013 #359