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In reply to the discussion: Men should be offended . . . [View all]neffernin
(275 posts)"not a single man on this thread will acknowledge women have the right to be wary"
All women have the right to be wary. Nearly every women I've been close to including family has been sexually assaulted at times and sometimes by family. The world's a sick place sometimes.
"cause in the past they have argued women do not have that right, it hurts their feelings"
You keep arguing against "they". This is a very common debate tactic to try to prove a point called the straw man. People create an image of their opposition that is above and beyond and warped because it is easier to debate than the actual facts of the debate itself.
"because it will contradict what they say in the past"
I know I'm more logical than most, but I have no problem in changing my opinions on things. The facts I know change, as does my opinion as I learn more facts. I imagine the same goes for many though.
"then they tell us we are responsible for our rapes."
Some men say this. But I've yet to see it in this thread.
Honestly I find it pretty offensive that you lump ALL men as "they" in what your opinion is. This is why I don't post here much, its this kind of trolling that makes DU a fairly unkind place to people who don't have the time to post 50 posts a day. Well I'm saying this for the men here, any instance of a man raping is that man's fault. He is 100% responsible for his actions. There may be factors that lead to him making that choice but that choice is his alone.
If you want to make the world a better place, stop trying to convince a bunch of like minded people, especially liberal men, that they are all potential rapists. Instead, spend your time and effort helping women understand how to avoid situations where these kinds of things are happening AND support groups for those who have been targeted. Put in community service time helping underprivileged youth in some way that positively benefits them so they don't turn out to be rapists. Think of what you are trying to accomplish and how what you are doing is not helping at all.