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lumberjack_jeff

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16. Non sequitur.

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:44 PM

Dec 2013

The 5 or 6 people are already working on the robots. If the workweek were shortened 20% there would be 6 or 7 people working.

There are easily 20% of the workforce that is unemployed or underemployed. Employ those people and wages will rise. Alternatively, mandate 3 or more weeks of paid annual leave.

Wages rise because labor is constrained. If an employer can't find that 7th person to service the robots, he or she will offer a higher wage.

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Do we understand this??? Productivity is causing the high unemployment. The GOP does. [View all] CK_John Dec 2013 OP

Shorten the work week with full salaries and benefits. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #1

The only jobs in play are being cut below 30hrs so they don't have to give benefits. CK_John Dec 2013 #5

It could be done at the Federal level Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #12

It would require a trivial change to the FLSA laws. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #17

+100000 woo me with science Dec 2013 #37

I don't think so. The banks appropriated all of our taxpayer money in the bailouts. CJCRANE Dec 2013 #2

No, we'll be paying for his wars for a long time yet madokie Dec 2013 #3

increase wages, decrease CEO pay. grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #4

Do you mean pay the robots more, productivity increases replace people with automatic devices. CK_John Dec 2013 #6

No, pay the people who make and service the robots, all grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #18

Absolutely. woo me with science Dec 2013 #38

better to shorten the work week. nt lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #7

When an industrial welding replace 9000 people in 1 plant. The only people working load CK_John Dec 2013 #8

Non sequitur. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #16

I think it is 20% without counting minimum wage jobs and undocumented. CK_John Dec 2013 #19

depends on how you measure, I guess. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #20

tax wealthy people and profitable corporations sufficiently to force downward redistribution.... mike_c Dec 2013 #9

We are facing a new world that requires less and less people keep the system running. CK_John Dec 2013 #11

Yep. This is the truth that we need to deal with. It should actually be good news, except for reformist2 Dec 2013 #30

That myth is fundamentally untrue. Nothing but a meme to defend our pathetic economic policies Taitertots Dec 2013 #10

This is a world problem look at Greece, Ireland, Iceland and how come only 1/2 college CK_John Dec 2013 #14

The EU problems are just the result of their own self-destructive economic policies... Taitertots Dec 2013 #28

Productivity gains is production per employee, not profits bhikkhu Dec 2013 #26

Productivity is a measure of product by machine or people. A driverless taxi CK_John Dec 2013 #27

Your response is focused on individual businesses and not the whole economy Taitertots Dec 2013 #32

They're not going to come up with a solution The2ndWheel Dec 2013 #13

I just hate to admit the doomday survial groups were the only ones to get it and prepare. CK_John Dec 2013 #15

Can there be a future for you if you make 8.25 an hour 4 t 4 Dec 2013 #21

It doesn't matter the wage if there is no job for 50% of the population.. CK_John Dec 2013 #23

yes it does matter because 50 % can take care of a much larger number 4 t 4 Dec 2013 #24

I don't think you understand the problem of productivity. CK_John Dec 2013 #25

And the pay for the 50% will collapse - labor supply and demand, you know. reformist2 Dec 2013 #29

Lots of talk about a Basic Income (i.e. 10k or so to every person 18+) in the news kelly1mm Dec 2013 #22

That's utter nonesense DefenseLawyer Dec 2013 #31

There are 2 types of "productivity" jazzimov Dec 2013 #33

No MFrohike Dec 2013 #34

Good outline of the past but what do we do for the jobless going forward. CK_John Dec 2013 #35

Unemployed workers should be compensated. Obviously, it is the system that has failed to provide grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #36

One idea MFrohike Dec 2013 #39