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121. I can attest to the ethnic racism among whites.

Tue Mar 13, 2012, 12:03 PM

Mar 2012

When my dad was growing up in rural Pennsylvania 99% of the people in his small town were Catholic. But, they had separate churches - one for Italians, one for Poles, one for the Irish. It was important that everyone "stick to their own." When a cousin announced her engagement to a man from a different ethnic background, my grandmother was aghast. When another cousin married a Jewish man, she practically had a heart attack.

At least in my family it seemed to be more of a generational thing. My parents, the WWII generation, inherited a lot of that racism from their immigrant parents and, honestly, they weren't deliberately malicious about it. It was a fact of life. Fortunately, I don't see it much in my generation and not at all in my daughter's.

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I want to talk frankly about the south hate here [View all] backwoodsbob Mar 2012 OP

I'm a liberal in Texas Skittles Mar 2012 #1

so EVERY person in the south is guilty? backwoodsbob Mar 2012 #4

Nice way to derail a conversation. Warpy Mar 2012 #13

I see the problem you have with reading comprehension Skittles Mar 2012 #15

I think ppl here are talking about southern GOP voters. FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #103

I don't recall anyone on DU ever claiming that "everyone" in the South is tblue37 Mar 2012 #159

Thank you - good post treestar Mar 2012 #186

Nice strawman. AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #165

Of course not - TBF Mar 2012 #168

I remember working the primaries in 2010 w8liftinglady Mar 2012 #18

you have guts, w8liftinglady! Skittles Mar 2012 #32

she wasn't scared because iemitsu Mar 2012 #102

I lift weights! Skittles Mar 2012 #184

i can beat that - i'm in east texas, and i see where the reputation comes from too. however arely staircase Mar 2012 #61

One of my co-workers lives in Tyler...drives to Dallas to work. w8liftinglady Mar 2012 #63

tyler to dallas daily is a pretty good hike. arely staircase Mar 2012 #71

Tara Winery,maybe? w8liftinglady Mar 2012 #72

nope. wow, more than one east texas winery, who'd of thunk it lol arely staircase Mar 2012 #78

LOL... My partner and I used to go to Tara's w8liftinglady Mar 2012 #83

gun barrel city is only my second favorite texas town name arely staircase Mar 2012 #89

A moment I've not forgotten in Tyler Texas AnotherDreamWeaver Mar 2012 #113

My Populist, FDR, pro-LABOR roots are from that area. bvar22 Mar 2012 #172

I said I UNDERSTAND it Skittles Mar 2012 #69

oh, i wasn't accusing you of or chatising you for anything arely staircase Mar 2012 #74

You're not making that up. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2012 #114

I can attest to the ethnic racism among whites. LibDemAlways Mar 2012 #121

I grew up in a small town in Montgomery Co., PA and it was the same way life long demo Mar 2012 #182

You should have heard what Bavarians (Southern Germans) used to JDPriestly Mar 2012 #194

I live in Alaska. Sounds the same. roguevalley Mar 2012 #101

Dick Army, Phil Gramm, Tom Delay Rex Mar 2012 #128

I get it, I really get it. I am a social democratic living in the south. We all aren't lemmings. southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #131

I'm a as far left as you can get without falling off the edge liberal & am from No. FL lark Mar 2012 #144

Good rant Bob. lpbk2713 Mar 2012 #2

You are quite right. blue neen Mar 2012 #3

I live in Ohio and we have people here just as bad or worse than some of doc03 Mar 2012 #10

wow, i only hear the n word every couple of weeks arely staircase Mar 2012 #105

LOL! Withywindle Mar 2012 #109

Oh, I spent an entire summer jsmirman Mar 2012 #12

I guess the driving thing would depend on what part of PA you were in. blue neen Mar 2012 #20

In the LV jsmirman Mar 2012 #24

in east texas the kkk is pretty much only visible in the far southeast corner - you may have heard o arely staircase Mar 2012 #92

Oh, I believe it Amaril Mar 2012 #117

Same here, and they're quite proud of it, too! blue neen Mar 2012 #137

I live in Pennsylvania too. maddiemom Mar 2012 #178

K&R !!! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2012 #5

You know...as I said in another thread nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #6

First of all, you sound awesome jsmirman Mar 2012 #7

I live in one of the most conservative voting city's surrounding Cleveland, Ohio.... WCGreen Mar 2012 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Mar 2012 #9

in a backwards way you made my point backwoodsbob Mar 2012 #28

The south is a near theocracy Warpy Mar 2012 #36

+1 PassingFair Mar 2012 #88

I live in the South, Atlanta, Ga, area to be exact. RebelOne Mar 2012 #11

Yeah, OK, fine. But where are ya' on NASCAR? trof Mar 2012 #14

NASCAR is hardly even southern anymore KamaAina Mar 2012 #126

"Hardly even Southern" has always described stock car racing Mopar151 Mar 2012 #136

K&R... stonecutter357 Mar 2012 #151

Well said, Bob. I'm in GA and yes, there are shitheads here CurtEastPoint Mar 2012 #16

You ain't the South, Bob izquierdista Mar 2012 #17

no you are WRONG backwoodsbob Mar 2012 #37

How am I going to change my neighbor? izquierdista Mar 2012 #87

I won't hide or hold back backwoodsbob Mar 2012 #56

midwest here wendylaroux Mar 2012 #19

People like simple solutions that fit with their preconceptions of life, complexity that challenges Uncle Joe Mar 2012 #21

I know, Baby. It makes an old liberal hippie Southerner sad. nolabear Mar 2012 #22

K&R... stonecutter357 Mar 2012 #152

It's an old story, isn't it? tledford Mar 2012 #23

RE: DU being right of personal center......... socialist_n_TN Mar 2012 #97

People make generalizations on everything. Everyone here at DU, where ever they are from could say mother earth Mar 2012 #25

I live in MS Aerows Mar 2012 #26

Hey Bob... handmade34 Mar 2012 #27

I grew up next to SC :) stuntcat Mar 2012 #29

Take this to heart my fellow American (s) showmethejedi Mar 2012 #30

Reccity rec rec! pecwae Mar 2012 #31

I live in the south. Truthfully, there are a lot of people just like you describe. Good luck in SC. Hoyt Mar 2012 #33

A Cheerwine toast to you! pinboy3niner Mar 2012 #34

Oh no you did not!! wendylaroux Mar 2012 #41

They will deliver it to your door pinboy3niner Mar 2012 #43

your the best!! thanks!! wendylaroux Mar 2012 #65

Cheerwine stonecutter357 Mar 2012 #154

I agree with you TeamsterDem Mar 2012 #35

Aren't we all somethingists? mahina Mar 2012 #38

and I grew up in the UK learning how stupid the Irish were and now I'm trying to Irish roots Demonaut Mar 2012 #46

I was born and raised in the South. Some of the most racist people I have EVER known Number23 Mar 2012 #39

a problem, Bob, is that some people MAKE FORTUNES promoting those stereotypes grasswire Mar 2012 #40

YOU NAILED IT backwoodsbob Mar 2012 #51

"Latte liberal" is also an object of hatred grasswire Mar 2012 #66

Count me in as born & raised in Richmond, VA arcane1 Mar 2012 #42

I only diss on the South xmas74 Mar 2012 #44

RTR stonecutter357 Mar 2012 #155

All over Faurot Field. xmas74 Mar 2012 #183

I lived in Arkansas and Mississippi for several years. DCBob Mar 2012 #45

Enjoy your plantation in SC! Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #47

As one of southern comics says, "Don't care what anyone says, that's funny." Hoyt Mar 2012 #75

Except he's from Nebraska, dmallind Mar 2012 #153

You're wrong. The Doctor. Mar 2012 #48

Bob. bluestate10 Mar 2012 #49

Just wondering if pipi_k Mar 2012 #50

LOL... I feel your pain here in Texas w8liftinglady Mar 2012 #53

Yes jeff47 Mar 2012 #57

aw HELL yes Skittles Mar 2012 #68

Thank you, Bob. It gets a little disheartening to read posts here that lump all of us Arkansas Granny Mar 2012 #52

you are right. w8liftinglady Mar 2012 #54

If you don't like the way the South is viewed by the rest of the country, then you change it. baldguy Mar 2012 #55

All right, now you watch mine. nolabear Mar 2012 #70

Bill Maher NAILED IT, because no one understands the south better than hughee99 Mar 2012 #127

That wasn't Bill Maher's video. It was Nancy Pelosi's daughter's. MADem Mar 2012 #150

My apologies to Bill. hughee99 Mar 2012 #162

I did not see the whole show. I did see the video. MADem Mar 2012 #163

The original post to which I replied seemed to be hughee99 Mar 2012 #166

"you could make a video just like this in New York, New Jersey" guardian Mar 2012 #200

Timothy McVeigh born and raised in New York, Terry Nichols born and raised in Michigan RedEarth Mar 2012 #134

The county red to blue map shows a slightly different picture... Hippo_Tron Mar 2012 #188

I don't really give a rat's ass what they think Gman Mar 2012 #58

I don't really give a rat's ass stonecutter357 Mar 2012 #156

I live in Kansas and I'm a huge Liberal too. mistertrickster Mar 2012 #59

In fairness, there are pockets of ignorance in New England. Dawson Leery Mar 2012 #60

My aunt still tells me stories about New Haven w8liftinglady Mar 2012 #64

East Haven is for whites only: Dawson Leery Mar 2012 #73

Pockets? POCKETS? Mopar151 Mar 2012 #190

you go, backwoodsbob nt arely staircase Mar 2012 #62

The 2nd District here in Maine is not a whole lot of different, Bob. Old and In the Way Mar 2012 #67

Pictures of Maine are always so pretty. I dream of visiting there one day. Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #82

I'm a liberal in Louisiana. I feel your pain. juajen Mar 2012 #76

I'm from Louisiana, too! I live in Dallas now. I'm from Cajun country...southwest La. And yes,... Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #80

Most of the Cajuns that I know in Dallas vote Democratic w8liftinglady Mar 2012 #91

The hell you say! That's where I'm from! nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #99

My son lives in the south, and when I visit him I meet a lot of wonderful people. But... Speck Tater Mar 2012 #77

I am the south, too! Deep, deep, deep south. By the time I was 10, I was anti-racism. Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #79

The GOP's Southern Strategy is called that for a reason. JoePhilly Mar 2012 #81

I was born in the midwest, grew up in the midwest,and except for 22 years spent in New York, libinnyandia Mar 2012 #84

Native Texan here. I am a third generation Democrat and live in East Texas. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2012 #85

LOL... DON'T get me started on Smokey Joe w8liftinglady Mar 2012 #86

Are you in SE TX? That's KKK territory, so I wouldn't think there'd be many white Dems there. Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #100

I'm in East Texas north of there. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2012 #174

No... It Really Isn't The South... WillyT Mar 2012 #90

I don't even know if it's city versus country Art_from_Ark Mar 2012 #111

I agree....see my post about. Old and In the Way Mar 2012 #112

Hey, WillieT. Interesting blue pattern in the south. MissMarple Mar 2012 #135

That is an "All or Nothing" graphic, bvar22 Mar 2012 #173

If You Find It... I Would Love To See It WillyT Mar 2012 #181

It took me a while to find it, but here it is. bvar22 Mar 2012 #189

Way Cool... Is That The First Time That's Been Done ??? WillyT Mar 2012 #192

Indiana cornfield liberal here... Comatose Sphagetti Mar 2012 #93

This proud Az liberal knows exactly what you are talking about. jillan Mar 2012 #94

I find hate expressed towards the people of any region personally disgusting Generic Brad Mar 2012 #95

I'm from Arizona - home of The War on MLK Day, SB1070 and banning Hispanic studies NAO Mar 2012 #96

Orange County Cal progressive here. South Orange County. Overall, Orange County wiggs Mar 2012 #98

I'm with you on that frazzled Mar 2012 #108

I am a California Socialist Taverner Mar 2012 #104

Tennessee progressive here politicasista Mar 2012 #106

Haters gonna hate. I bet there isn't a fucking city, town, or burg in this whole country cherokeeprogressive Mar 2012 #107

San Francisco was voted the most hated city in the nation. AtomicKitten Mar 2012 #110

thank you! we can all hate each other like adults... and still learn to not care so much about it. NuttyFluffers Mar 2012 #118

LOL's!! It's from total jealousy I think! stuntcat Mar 2012 #120

so many years ago, barbtries Mar 2012 #161

I understand Blue_Roses Mar 2012 #115

BULLSHIT ELITIST? No, that is not judgmental. No, that is not hate. KILL THE WISE ONE Mar 2012 #116

Good thing homophobia and bigotry have been eliminated outside the South. nt jobycom Mar 2012 #130

Eliminated, No. but what I deal with on a daily basis is almost nonexistent for me here. KILL THE WISE ONE Mar 2012 #197

Yeah, but up here in Wisconsin, everyone's a liberal. Yeah, that's it. Scuba Mar 2012 #119

I'm a Virginian and I don't pay it much mind Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #122

Idaho is well north of the Mason Dixon line, IDemo Mar 2012 #123

Your point is entirely valid. hifiguy Mar 2012 #124

Yep, geardaddy Mar 2012 #125

This liberal vegetarian atheist humanitarian Southerner agrees. nt jobycom Mar 2012 #129

A frank conversation would have both pros and cons just1voice Mar 2012 #132

I live in Georgia and I understand what you call hate about the South Papagoose Mar 2012 #133

We sat down for breakfast at a B&B with a couple from Boulder. MissMarple Mar 2012 #138

This coastie salutes you wryter2000 Mar 2012 #139

I moved to Texas (Houston area) because I wanted to. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2012 #140

I thinik the reality is rural versus populated rather than north/south. Bonhomme Richard Mar 2012 #141

I believe you are on to something here. hifiguy Mar 2012 #143

A lib in the South and I'm proud to make this rec #100. n/t cynatnite Mar 2012 #142

MLK said the racism he experienced in Chicago was worse than Mississippi. Tveil Mar 2012 #145

Thank you! barbtries Mar 2012 #146

It's an uphill climb. MADem Mar 2012 #147

I love the south and I got something for everyone to hate. DeadEyeDyck Mar 2012 #148

What he said. WilliamPitt Mar 2012 #149

No one here ASSUMES anything about individuals, you included Doctor_J Mar 2012 #157

There are crappy, racist disgusting conservative people in every state. Jennicut Mar 2012 #158

If you are the south, you don't have the pulpit. The "South" has its reputation for a reason. gtar100 Mar 2012 #160

Statistically speaking, you are not "The South". AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #164

Statistically speaking, you aid those you claim to despise the most when you describe a region Uncle Joe Mar 2012 #169

I can't help it. AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #196

Your post makes my point Uncle Joe Mar 2012 #198

52 percent of GOP voters in Mississippi said they think Obama is a Muslim... tjwash Mar 2012 #167

Florida chimes in DonCoquixote Mar 2012 #170

Very well said!! n/t patricia92243 Mar 2012 #171

I live in Kansas and admit we are a shithole of GOP idiots. At least I have guts to admit it. Logical Mar 2012 #175

Some of the best libs/progs I know live in deep red territory north or south many a good man Mar 2012 #176

A DURec for The Beautiful South! bvar22 Mar 2012 #177

K&R... stonecutter357 Mar 2012 #201

I have deep roots in the north and the south. Its complicated. Bosso 63 Mar 2012 #179

Welcome! SouthernLiberal Mar 2012 #180

I agree! Will do. savalez Mar 2012 #185

How come all your congresspersons are such assholes? valerief Mar 2012 #187

Oh, piffle. Daemonaquila Mar 2012 #191

Thanks for all the good things you do, backwoodsbob. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #193

The Old South is rick santorum's base.... solarman350 Mar 2012 #195

You are going to have your hands full in SC adigal Mar 2012 #199