Rise Of The GOP Authoritarian Police State

[kctim]

12. Oh, I appreciate facts for sure

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Truth: We as a nation have always held our flag in high regard, there has been no "steady cultivation" of this attitude. Mottos, slogans, symbols, songs etc... have been a part of our nations culture from its founding and claiming it's proof of creeping fascism goes against the 200+ years of our history.

So, false. Love of country has nothing to do with people disagreeing with your opinion and interpretation of the tenets of The Constitution.

2. False.
There is no "conservative" or "liberal" media brainwashing people into fascism or socialism and both sides us fear to push their own agenda. You claim the right has disdain for human rights and the right claims you have disdain for individual rights, and you both use the extremes to "prove" your point.

3. True for both sides actually. But when you get down to it, how each side defines the other sides actions is the problem. Both sides see themselves as victims and both sides claim fascism or socialism when opinion differs from their own.


Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause -- The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived
common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. No, I do not deny that we have military supremacy. Of course, an all volunteer military that does not have any power outside of the military isn't fascism either.

5. Duh? Abortion is legal in this country and high opposition to it is primarily over the viable stage and encompasses both parties. There is no law against being a homosexual and being against gay marriage doesn't always mean one has a phobia of gays. Yes, some anti-gay legislation does come up that we must work to change, but the fact that we are doing so shows that we are progressing on the issue. Same is true of womens issues.

6. False. Support for liberals or conservative depends on the media and what is "entirely fucking stupid" is opinion only.

7. True, they do. But what is the difference between using those words and using words like theocracy, conservatism, rednecks and fascism at every opportunity?

8. False. The typical "agenda" for Republicans is to follow the Constitution as they believe it should be followed. The super religious minority part of the party are not representative of the party as a whole. If it were, there would be no 1st Amendment.

9. True and false. Yes, it can be argued that business has to much influence in government, but it can also be argued that government has to much influence in businesses. Fact is though, that government is the only entity with the power to make us do anything and there is nothing that shows Wal-Mart controls you.

10. Lack of voluntary support does not mean it is suppressed. Sure Republicans have chosen to support the individual over the union, but that hardly is proof that they are trying to quash labor any more than it means Democrats are trying to install the hammer and sickle by choosing unions over the individual.

11. False. Both sides promote higher education and intellectuals, all one has to do is listen to them to see this. The problem both sides have is that their own personal opinions and interpretations are not being taught.

12. True, the police are indeed being given too much power year by year. I wouldn't signal out OWS though.

13. True, but this has been going on for decades and both parties are guilty of it. IF this was proof of us becoming a fascist state, we would already be one.

14. Unless I have missed some investigations or new facts, the answer is still false. Ranks right up there with all the "proof" that the UN is helping steal elections for Democrats and patrolling our streets.

"All of these points line up with Republicans far more than Democrats. Fascism is in the foyer."

No, it is your opinions that claim fascism is in the foyer, just as it is some on the rights opinions that claim socialism is here. Everything you stated has to be interpreted to support your opinion in order to see fascism is here.

"If you really appreciate 'facts', then you'll answer those questions. Otherwise I'll be happy to write you off as clueless."

I happily answered them, but something tells me that since I dare disagree with your opinions of what "is really going on," you will write the facts off anyways.