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11. Krugman explained

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 10:10 AM

Dec 2013

"Wasn't the ACA .... based on a Heritage proposal?"

...the disconnect best, citing what Jonathan Chait calls the "Heritage uncertainty principle":

And here’s the thing: Republicans don’t want to help the unfortunate. They’ll propound health-care ideas that will, they claim, help those with preexisting conditions and so on — but those aren’t really proposals, they’re diversionary tactics designed to stall real health reform. Chait finds Newt Gingrich more or less explicitly admitting this.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/12/13/a-health-care-mystery-explained/?_r=0

Republican proposals are hypothetical and theoretical BS. They have no intention of doing anything positive. They get credit for pushing things that they don't actually support and would never enact.

It's like Romney's veto of the most significant parts of the MA health care law.

It's like the AEI asshole pushing that Republicans should stand up for the safety net when his actual message is the poor should support destroying it.

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In The Philadelphia Inquirer is an 'article' called 'Obamacare: A bad deal for young people' [View all] onehandle Dec 2013 OP

That sure isn't our families experience OKNancy Dec 2013 #1

Right wing crapaganda (R) to pollute American brainpans Berlum Dec 2013 #2

I am relatively certain that some of their assumptions are false. Mass Dec 2013 #3

Heritage Foundation? GoldenOldie Dec 2013 #4

Independence Blue Cross Freddie Dec 2013 #5

They can afford to play both sides of the coin. onehandle Dec 2013 #6

Looking forward to it Freddie Dec 2013 #17

Actually, they are correct, that's the point of the mandate... Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #7

This is pure ProSense Dec 2013 #9

Yeah, but that's crap Prosense, and you know it... Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #12

No, it's not "crap." The Heritage Foundation is spewing crap ProSense Dec 2013 #13

Then there is nothing to worry about and we don't need any mandates. nt Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #16

What does that have to do with the fact that the OP is nonsense? ProSense Dec 2013 #19

As I said, it's not, but that's okay. I am not interested in debating the self-evident. nt Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #24

A tax-funded single-payer system would do exactly the same thing. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #10

The NHS is funded through general taxation. nt Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #14

Not with a progressive income tax it wouldn't, since older workers are wealthier, and earn more. Romulox Dec 2013 #15

I think quite a few DUers would dispute your "older=wealthier" theory. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #29

It's statistically true, even as there are many individual exceptions. Romulox Dec 2013 #31

Another reason ProSense Dec 2013 #23

That's paying for the subsidy/tax credit side of things. The other larger half... Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #27

There you go again ProSense Dec 2013 #30

+1 mmonk Dec 2013 #34

Wasn't the ACA ... sendero Dec 2013 #8

Krugman explained ProSense Dec 2013 #11

Was that after Krugman recently explained his support for the Trans Pacific Partnership? Romulox Dec 2013 #21

You're knocking Krugman and agreeing with BS from the Heritage Foundation? ProSense Dec 2013 #26

Nonsense. Obamacare ("Romneycare") is *also* from the Heritage Foundation. YOU agree with them. nt Romulox Dec 2013 #28

Yes it was solarhydrocan Dec 2013 #18

Yes, and almost exactly in the form it was enacted--e.g. no drug reimportation, no public option. nt Romulox Dec 2013 #20

The idea that the youngest workers could bail out the healthcare industry is bizarre, to begin with. Romulox Dec 2013 #22

that's my paper and here's the funny part: PCIntern Dec 2013 #25

Your posting this here why? Capt. Obvious Dec 2013 #32

Welcome to ignore. onehandle Dec 2013 #33

How immature of you Capt. Obvious Dec 2013 #35

Of course it is... hughee99 Dec 2013 #36