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bvar22

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6. Detaining anyone without probable cause is WRONG.

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 07:42 PM

Dec 2013

Forcing someone into a parking lot,
and forcing them to answer questions,
or hassling then in ANY way is WRONG.

We are living in a creeping Police State that assumes more and more power every day.
It WILL continue to assume more power until WE stop it.

We should have stopped it at the very first First Amendment Zone.

Many here will argue that they have witnessed far worse transgressions in other countries in an attempt to discount and marginalize those who recognize this for what it is.

We may not be as bad as East Germany (yet),
but we are closer to that today than we were a few years ago,
and moving closer every day.
Everyone should[/]i be able to see exactly WHERE this is heading.

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Pennsylvania street checkpoint asks drivers for mouth swabs [View all] Newsjock Dec 2013 OP

I can think of another place I would let them wipe. postulater Dec 2013 #1

LOL! +1 nt Logical Dec 2013 #8

standard response: i'd like to have my attorney present before i submit to your request frylock Dec 2013 #2

I think a simple ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #4

HELL no would be more direct. hobbit709 Dec 2013 #5

It's best NOT to use profanity ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #9

Were the police making the request or the survey people? hobbit709 Dec 2013 #11

Either case ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #18

And they continue to destroy our privacy. diabeticman Dec 2013 #3

Detaining anyone without probable cause is WRONG. bvar22 Dec 2013 #6

Bingo! The very fact that drivers . . . markpkessinger Dec 2013 #15

Here is my answer....."Fuck Off" Logical Dec 2013 #7

Get. A. Fucking. Warrant. derby378 Dec 2013 #10

Saliva or blood?? kentuck Dec 2013 #12

They'll need a warrant for either one derby378 Dec 2013 #13

Paid. Participation. Voluntary. Test. n/t bobclark86 Dec 2013 #21

Forced. Off. The. Road. By. Cops. Brigid Dec 2013 #22

Yup, so dangerous... bobclark86 Dec 2013 #27

Maybe, just maybe, your teabagging uncle has this one right. Brigid Dec 2013 #29

WTF does a store asking for marketing information have to do with civil liberties? bobclark86 Dec 2013 #45

Do you SERIOUSLY condone this state action?? WinkyDink Dec 2013 #33

YOu seem to be missing something here. Squinch Dec 2013 #41

Which? A checkpoint in the middle of the road bobclark86 Dec 2013 #46

Every single person thus detained should sue individually dickthegrouch Dec 2013 #14

Give me a break. It was a study that has been going on since the 70's. This article is okaawhatever Dec 2013 #16

You fail to mention Curmudgeoness Dec 2013 #23

Everyone stopped should sue. Dawson Leery Dec 2013 #26

Oh, well,then! It's from the SEVENTIES, people! Rejoice! Obey! Open wide! (Who ARE these half-wits?) WinkyDink Dec 2013 #34

WTF? Checkpoints? God forbid anyone has to get somewhere on time. Matariki Dec 2013 #17

VOLUNTARY STUDY! PAID PARTICIPATION! ANONYMOUS TESTS! bobclark86 Dec 2013 #19

No one was required to stop? Iggo Dec 2013 #30

If it's openly voluntary, why not just post a big sign... Jerry442 Dec 2013 #31

Really? I don't think a crayon or letter blocks can polish up this turd. hughee99 Dec 2013 #32

Did the police actually pull anyone over? NO. bobclark86 Dec 2013 #44

No, the police let SOMEONE ELSE pull people over and just watch. hughee99 Dec 2013 #48

The "forcing over of one's car" part you tidily gloss over. WinkyDink Dec 2013 #35

Read the article... bobclark86 Dec 2013 #43

Cars forced off the road to a checkpoint by police for the benefit of a private company. Squinch Dec 2013 #42

Coppers are being good little overpaid whores. PM Martin Dec 2013 #20

Nieves sounds like one of those Ted Nugent Don't Tread on Me Teabagger types. Kaleva Dec 2013 #25

Are you JOKING?? He sounds like an American who knows his civil rights. DO YOU? WinkyDink Dec 2013 #36

Were his civil rights violated? No. Thus a teabagger, don't tread on me type. Kaleva Dec 2013 #38

I hope 100% of the motorists said "no" Liberal_in_LA Dec 2013 #24

Unfortunately, the number will be much lower. Incitatus Dec 2013 #39

To quote a dingbat... SCVDem Dec 2013 #28

If you read this while W was President, would you have the same opinion? nt Incitatus Dec 2013 #40

Got some nice Fascism goin' on here. WinkyDink Dec 2013 #37

Quotes are from Ricardo Nieves, an Alex Jones guest coincidentally. greyl Dec 2013 #47

Yes, Alex Jones says Pennsylvanians were "coerced" into giving giving cheek swabs. Kaleva Dec 2013 #49

Have you ever been confronted in this manner? Cops (and their allies) don't joke. WinkyDink Dec 2013 #50