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Aren't you charged a percentage of the tab by the credit card network? FarCenter Dec 2013 #1
Yes, you are charged, but the point is... dorkzilla Dec 2013 #2
Wow. athena Dec 2013 #8
I always try to make sure I and friends tip in cash... Historic NY Dec 2013 #91
AND it takes profits from the thieving credit card companies, which is always the polite thing to do jtuck004 Dec 2013 #103
*snort* dorkzilla Dec 2013 #117
I just realized this. I'm going to tip in cash from now on too. Maraya1969 Dec 2013 #170
that's what i do barbtries Dec 2013 #181
Me too. dchill Dec 2013 #190
I do that as well. xxqqqzme Dec 2013 #232
I suspected it, which is why I tip in cash even if I pay by card Warpy Dec 2013 #93
So Do I Leith Dec 2013 #98
We do that as well.. SoCalDem Dec 2013 #113
I think I might just ask some restaurant owners if that is their practice Maraya1969 Dec 2013 #171
me too. Probably common for people who know people who waited. n/t hollysmom Dec 2013 #156
I generally tip in cash for the reasons cited in this thread Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #197
I always tip in cash Doctor_J Dec 2013 #200
I love you. Tell me where this place is and if I'm ever in your town Im eating there. TeamPooka Dec 2013 #10
Aw shucks... dorkzilla Dec 2013 #20
I am, and would support your business Skraxx Dec 2013 #36
I am. I'd love to patronize your business. RedCappedBandit Dec 2013 #38
We go to the city pretty regularly. HappyMe Dec 2013 #46
I'm in NYC also. The_Commonist Dec 2013 #53
Seriously! intersectionality Dec 2013 #54
Not in the City, its in Westchester! dorkzilla Dec 2013 #60
I'm originally from Larchmont NY but I live in Los Angeles now. TeamPooka Dec 2013 #92
Team Pooka-sent you a pm dorkzilla Dec 2013 #108
Next time the wife and I JackInGreen Dec 2013 #195
What part of Westchester tabbycat31 Dec 2013 #218
I used to live in Pleasantville. At one point, the town was lousy with my relatives! dorkzilla Dec 2013 #219
I will tell my friends tabbycat31 Dec 2013 #220
Everybody knows that when you use a credit card the business doesn't get the charged amount. FarCenter Dec 2013 #11
Some of us didn't know that the fee is taken from the servers athena Dec 2013 #15
Exactly the point... dorkzilla Dec 2013 #18
Just chalk it up to the cost of doing business (which it is) and having a clear conscience. AAO Dec 2013 #81
It ISN'T "the cost of...." You have missed the entire point. Entirely. WinkyDink Dec 2013 #137
Well, why don't you help me out and explain the point I missed. Entirely. AAO Dec 2013 #222
it's very common green917 Dec 2013 #164
CC companies can afford to offer to dog et al because some people pay 12% to 30% on a balance. FarCenter Dec 2013 #21
OK, good point. However, athena Dec 2013 #25
If the OP want to do so, fine by me. But the OP is kicking in an additional percent to the tip jar. FarCenter Dec 2013 #39
????? tazkcmo Dec 2013 #61
The part about the owner adding to the tip jar by not charging the servers the cc cost Incitatus Dec 2013 #115
No. Credit cards benefit the merchant. DirkGently Dec 2013 #152
Well, that's not quite the whole story skepticscott Dec 2013 #187
The fees should be a deductible on taxes. Lars39 Dec 2013 #196
The merchant, yes. It shouldn't be the employees. kcr Dec 2013 #94
That's the point exactly. The Wielding Truth Dec 2013 #183
"The business" does not equal "the wait-staff." WinkyDink Dec 2013 #136
You've just put your finger on the real issue: Why should the customer. . . MrModerate Dec 2013 #22
Dorkzilla, you might just set a trend this way. Brigid Dec 2013 #28
I'm just gobsmacked about this dorkzilla Dec 2013 #63
You're not in the U.S. I take it? dorkzilla Dec 2013 #33
Nope, Australia. MrModerate Dec 2013 #50
I disagree. A bit. Springslips Dec 2013 #37
And as a customer, I would prefer to be charged a fair price for the food and service Ms. Toad Dec 2013 #48
Agreed. The waitperson is the restaurateur's employee . . . MrModerate Dec 2013 #52
It also depends where you work sharp_stick Dec 2013 #227
Trust me. It would make the customers uncomfortable. Luminous Animal Dec 2013 #55
A.) How so? MrModerate Dec 2013 #62
Americans are very uncomfortable with not tipping... Luminous Animal Dec 2013 #132
I think Americans would welcome the end of tipping . . . MrModerate Dec 2013 #162
Not me. I *LOVE* tipping. Bonx Dec 2013 #215
+1 Egnever Dec 2013 #230
Your mileage clearly varies. n/t MrModerate Dec 2013 #239
Not this American Tien1985 Dec 2013 #231
Americans like to feel like skepticscott Dec 2013 #233
I'm American and I don't feel that. MrModerate Dec 2013 #238
Certainly not ALL Americans skepticscott Dec 2013 #240
Interestingly, the author/restaurateur you cited . . . MrModerate Dec 2013 #241
It proves nothing except you are full of yourself. Thanks in advance. n/t HangOnKids Dec 2013 #243
It's the American way. Restaurants will lose money if they go "Euro" in pricing (BTW, I personally WinkyDink Dec 2013 #141
Exactly.......... Swede Atlanta Dec 2013 #41
6% discount rate? horrible merchant account! mwooldri Dec 2013 #172
The problem is that not doing it directly cuts profit margins, and many owners wont do that. Xithras Dec 2013 #67
Agreed, but since I can't change the system I'll opt for protecting my people. dorkzilla Dec 2013 #112
You're awesome alato Dec 2013 #96
I hope that you succeed BIG TIME! Moostache Dec 2013 #118
I always pay tips in cash, even when I use a card for the meal. nt ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #145
Transaction fees are a corporate tax and should be outlawed. Banks already charge high interest Monk06 Dec 2013 #177
The tip isn't yours to fiddle with. n/t tazkcmo Dec 2013 #58
yes, that's it Trailrider1951 Dec 2013 #127
A local restaurant owner took tips freebrew Dec 2013 #199
Three phone calls would end that. Ikonoklast Dec 2013 #210
Missouri? freebrew Dec 2013 #244
The credit card fee losses was one of the reasons used to keep the minimum wage lower for okaawhatever Dec 2013 #75
AMEN!!!!!! dorkzilla Dec 2013 #116
And, most businesses set their prices to cover such costs. Only a greedy Hoyt Dec 2013 #84
Thanks, Hoyt, that's what I think (about the prices). I don't know why this is so convoluted. n/t dorkzilla Dec 2013 #121
+1000000 nashville_brook Dec 2013 #150
OMFG. You just turned my stomach. grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #109
63 cents not $1.13 svpadgham Dec 2013 #123
Good catch. My experience with greedy business owners is they are always trying to Hoyt Dec 2013 #130
wage theft: in for a penny, in for a pound nashville_brook Dec 2013 #151
Sorry, but you're wrong. eggplant Dec 2013 #139
it's also illegal as there's laws against wage theft nashville_brook Dec 2013 #148
that's called WAGE THEFT and it's not something I'd expect to see promoted by a DU'er nashville_brook Dec 2013 #147
You would think it would be.... justamama83 Dec 2013 #208
Some businesses charge credit card users extra to offset some of the fee taken by the bluestate10 Dec 2013 #163
I can't believe you even said that. Maraya1969 Dec 2013 #169
You are exactly right dem in texas Dec 2013 #178
Wow. Harsh. eggplant Dec 2013 #194
3.5% of $18 is 63 cents, also merchants should shop around for a lower rate Hamlette Dec 2013 #207
Can't imagine how much of this goes under the radar mragsdale45 Dec 2013 #3
Its SO SCREWED UP! dorkzilla Dec 2013 #9
Sounds like a good advertising point! arcane1 Dec 2013 #4
LOL!!! dorkzilla Dec 2013 #13
I take it that you are new to being a SBO? In the Big Book of Employment, this is one Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #5
Yes, always in business but never 100% my own. dorkzilla Dec 2013 #12
You're absolutely right, and that's how we've run all of our businesses. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #23
LOL, no and I refuse to join! dorkzilla Dec 2013 #40
Yes, but you are in the one business that we've considered and rejected time and time again, Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #77
You will have to tell us where the place is nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #6
Suburban NYC - I think its a wee bit far for you!!! dorkzilla Dec 2013 #16
You mean the east north east county? nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #17
open a branch in milwaukee... keroro gunsou Dec 2013 #47
My server friends are grateful when they're tipped cash - specifically because of this practice. myrna minx Dec 2013 #7
I try to tip cash because sometimes the servers don't get the cc gratuity for weeks dorkzilla Dec 2013 #14
Many times servers are forbidden to talk about it too, even if asked by a customer myrna minx Dec 2013 #24
Well, I'm doing that from now on. Le Taz Hot Dec 2013 #30
I tip in cash... KansDem Dec 2013 #201
Tip in cash PDittie Dec 2013 #19
Good advice! nt valerief Dec 2013 #29
Well, the thing is that if the tip is given in cash, the restaurant gets the whole tip, Yo_Mama Dec 2013 #26
I don't understand your post. Le Taz Hot Dec 2013 #32
You're not understanding Glassunion Dec 2013 #51
When you tip me cash tazkcmo Dec 2013 #68
Yep Glassunion Dec 2013 #86
Yes, and the collection time is a factor Yo_Mama Dec 2013 #146
What? ohheckyeah Dec 2013 #73
What's so hard about it? Glassunion Dec 2013 #88
Clear as mud. Le Taz Hot Dec 2013 #78
What part don't you get. Glassunion Dec 2013 #90
No, not really. ohheckyeah Dec 2013 #95
Ok... Look at it like this. Glassunion Dec 2013 #101
Okay then..... ohheckyeah Dec 2013 #111
I couldn't resist. Glassunion Dec 2013 #122
As a smartass I have to say.... ohheckyeah Dec 2013 #124
I didn't start it... But it needed finishing. Glassunion Dec 2013 #128
And you finished it well... ohheckyeah Dec 2013 #138
That made absolutely no sense n/t kcr Dec 2013 #102
You're not reading close enough. Glassunion Dec 2013 #106
oh kcr Dec 2013 #174
They do, or should. Yo_Mama Dec 2013 #64
what? n/t tazkcmo Dec 2013 #65
Wow! I never heard of that before. nt valerief Dec 2013 #27
Two of the three chefs on Master Chef have been caught doing it. nt Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2013 #31
I hope they were shamed for this! n/t dorkzilla Dec 2013 #43
Which one didn't? catbyte Dec 2013 #107
EXCELLENT question! dorkzilla Dec 2013 #120
To be honest, I read about all three and I can't remember which two. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2013 #191
Nothing new Glassunion Dec 2013 #34
Thanks for posting about this. I had no idea. Lex Dec 2013 #35
I always put the cash in their hands. heaven05 Dec 2013 #42
Here's a thought - Ms. Toad Dec 2013 #44
What a sweet person you are. truedelphi Dec 2013 #45
Thanks! dorkzilla Dec 2013 #56
I Always tip with cash haydukelives Dec 2013 #49
I already want to work for you! tazkcmo Dec 2013 #57
Congratulations, sheshe2 Dec 2013 #59
Thanks sheshe! dorkzilla Dec 2013 #66
If I get up your way, I will stop by~ sheshe2 Dec 2013 #131
Break an egg? LOL!!!! n/t dorkzilla Dec 2013 #133
To the people who say tip with cash. You know we are on the way to becoming a totodeinhere Dec 2013 #69
Excellent point dorkzilla Dec 2013 #72
Cash is becomming less common, but I don't see it going away anytime soon. Incitatus Dec 2013 #76
Not for a couple more generations, barring some dramatic social change. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #80
I always carry $300-$400 in my wallet. I only use cash. AAO Dec 2013 #97
I do the same. I prefer paying in cash when visiting a restaurant. nt bluestate10 Dec 2013 #166
We were recently in Europe (Austria, Czech Republic, Germany) mnhtnbb Dec 2013 #186
Due to business needs, it is not uncommon for me to have three to four thousand dollars in my wallet Ikonoklast Dec 2013 #212
Well, as long as I am alive, it will not be a cashless society. Curmudgeoness Dec 2013 #104
Wow Incitatus Dec 2013 #70
Thanks posting and thanks for your humanity Gothmog Dec 2013 #71
Tell us about your restaurant.... FarPoint Dec 2013 #74
I'm waiting for the banks to act like they can charge you for accepting cash. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #79
Tip with cash Half-Century Man Dec 2013 #82
She probably wasn't amused at the time... indie9197 Dec 2013 #159
A full sized Morgan silver dollar over a hundred years old. Half-Century Man Dec 2013 #160
I’m a small business owner and always felt if you needed employees and could not afford to .. busterbrown Dec 2013 #83
There are a LOT of ASSHOLES in the resturant industry 47of74 Dec 2013 #85
Good for you! mbperrin Dec 2013 #87
Its illegal Sgent Dec 2013 #89
This is the shell game business plays on us... ReRe Dec 2013 #99
think I'll start leaving the tip in cash.. n/t EC Dec 2013 #100
Oh no, the cat is out of the bag! So many ways B Calm Dec 2013 #105
Tip With Cash SoLeftIAmRight Dec 2013 #110
never heard of such a thing. good luck with your new restaurant. Liberal_in_LA Dec 2013 #114
Thank you! n/t dorkzilla Dec 2013 #125
One of the reasons Notafraidtoo Dec 2013 #119
I never knew this. I'll do all my tipping in cash from this point forward. Scuba Dec 2013 #126
Trickle down ... GeorgeGist Dec 2013 #129
it's just as easy to levy the fee onto customers (if anyone at all)! good on you dionysus Dec 2013 #134
I live in one of the wealthiest areas of the United States dorkzilla Dec 2013 #142
Thank you for posting this! I will be sure to ask about this practice next time I go to a restaurant WinkyDink Dec 2013 #135
Yep. I used to sell POS systems, and I made a point of not mentioning that option (nt) Recursion Dec 2013 #140
i am gonna stress cash tips. we do not go out much. or i do not. but i will carry cash. pansypoo53219 Dec 2013 #143
People like you demonstrate why we should always support local businesses n/t eridani Dec 2013 #144
You need Robert Irvine of Restaurant Impossible. RebelOne Dec 2013 #149
k and r--good for you, dorkzilla. looking forward to hearing how well you are doing. will have to niyad Dec 2013 #153
thank you for posting this -- this is wage theft, and it's sad that it's so common that nashville_brook Dec 2013 #154
Some restaurants don't permit you to put tips on credit card, a different solution (n/t) thesquanderer Dec 2013 #155
Thats a great idea n/t dorkzilla Dec 2013 #157
I know, huh? It would never even cross your mind to do something so...conservative. Zorra Dec 2013 #158
Tipping technotwit Dec 2013 #161
Two Things... & a K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2013 #165
As a person who waited tables for years lupinella Dec 2013 #167
You did the right thing, Servers shouldn't suffer because credit card company greed. bluestate10 Dec 2013 #168
K&R Kurovski Dec 2013 #173
Good point. If we could just make doing the right thing "very sexy, " most of our problems Hoyt Dec 2013 #176
Sounds like you need a new exec chef. ananda Dec 2013 #175
Nah, he smirked because our opening has been delayed since July and Ive paid him... dorkzilla Dec 2013 #188
I have never heard of this. And will tip cash from now on. Archaic Dec 2013 #179
I did not know this, dorkzilla.. thanks for letting us know! Cha Dec 2013 #180
Thank you, Cha! dorkzilla Dec 2013 #189
For what it's worth, I work for a restaurant company that Fearless Dec 2013 #182
If your new restaurant was in NYC TomClash Dec 2013 #184
Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #185
That is a f'ed up thing to do. yellerpup Dec 2013 #192
Thanks for the info. I will always tip in cash whenever possible from now on. DebJ Dec 2013 #193
I've waited tables and tended bar. xmas74 Dec 2013 #198
I grew up around the business... dorkzilla Dec 2013 #202
I would run it through your accountant at least madville Dec 2013 #203
Nope. Decision made. I'll charge $.25 more for the food dorkzilla Dec 2013 #204
+1. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #205
I have a GREAT accountant, who happens to be my aunt! dorkzilla Dec 2013 #206
LOL! A close personal relationship is always the best way to go. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #209
You should still check into the accounting. ieoeja Dec 2013 #213
Good for you! I'd eat at your restaurant! CrispyQ Dec 2013 #211
When you wake up in the morning rrneck Dec 2013 #214
LOL, yes there are! My response to them? dorkzilla Dec 2013 #217
My cousin worked almost 2 years for a restaurant owner who kept ALL the tips KurtNYC Dec 2013 #216
I always tip cash... ryan_cats Dec 2013 #221
this is why I always tip in tartan2 Dec 2013 #223
Because of this thread catrose Dec 2013 #224
Good for you! dorkzilla Dec 2013 #228
first of all, Congratulations on opening your own restaurant Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #225
Thanks, Pretz! dorkzilla Dec 2013 #226
Good for you for being an intelligent business owner. DrewFlorida Dec 2013 #229
One more good reason to tip in CASH. n/t pnwmom Dec 2013 #234
Never heard of this in the 6 months I installed and setup POS systems neffernin Dec 2013 #235
How long ago were you doing that? dorkzilla Dec 2013 #236
Gosh... about 7 years ago now neffernin Dec 2013 #237
i did not know this... shanti Dec 2013 #242
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