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petronius

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8. That overall total (58) appears too low, as does the number between

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 08:03 PM

Dec 2013

Columbine and Sandy Hook (31). I gather from the title that the creator of the graphic is suggesting that Sandy Hook represents a turning point, but to do so s/he has under-counted events before Sandy Hook, over-counted events after Sandy Hook, or both. Perhaps s/he used a different definition of 'school shooting' for the pre- and post- periods?

For comparison, the dataset with this Slate article lists more than 31 shootings between Columbine and Sandy Hook, even if we limit it to fatal events in K-12 schools. It does seem that frequency has increased since 1980, however...

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The legacy of Sandyhook [View all] BainsBane Dec 2013 OP

It's too sad..we are in many ways, as a country...disintegrating. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #1

We're at war with ourselves BainsBane Dec 2013 #2

I think so, the numbers are very real and painful and the response is something out of the Twilight Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #3

There are many things in America that have done that hack89 Dec 2013 #4

Yea, that is a really great response. Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #5

Just putting the hyperbole in context hack89 Dec 2013 #7

I know what your point was, and I do not appreciate it...not at all. Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #10

And your context does not change the fact hack89 Dec 2013 #11

DC was supposed to turn into the Wild West after Heller Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #12

I am so pleased to learn as a nation, things are going in the right direction. Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #15

When it comes to crime and violence it most definitely is hack89 Dec 2013 #17

You are sadly misguided. More guns in the hands of Ameican citizens will not make the US Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #19

We have cut our murder rate in half and it continues to decline hack89 Dec 2013 #20

I already have..but keep up the less violent meme, as it means so much to you and Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #21

Are you denying that violence has decreased significantly? hack89 Dec 2013 #22

Your links do not change the facts in my earlier post. Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #23

Gun violence decreased despite those roll backs hack89 Dec 2013 #24

I could be wrong, but I do believe you are behaving willfully obtuse. Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #25

Every year there is less violence hack89 Dec 2013 #26

Every year there is less violence and the level of violence is Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #27

"Off the charts"? Ok. Nt hack89 Dec 2013 #28

Yes, homicides one of the highest of all developed countries. Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #29

Pleasure talking to you. See you around. Nt hack89 Dec 2013 #31

Yep. laundry_queen Dec 2013 #30

The point is more guns did not increase the number of gun deaths hack89 Dec 2013 #32

Not really, since it doesn't seem you are interested in listening laundry_queen Dec 2013 #33

Of course you refuse hack89 Dec 2013 #39

What is wrong with emotion based arguments? laundry_queen Dec 2013 #40

At least you are honest and don't try to hide your disdain for rational thought hack89 Dec 2013 #42

And I'm glad you don't hide your ice cold grinch heart for all to see. laundry_queen Dec 2013 #45

I favor increased gun control hack89 Dec 2013 #46

I understand your point but with cigarettes it is a self inflicted death with all we know about firsttimer Dec 2013 #16

The post I was addressing was talking about all gun deaths hack89 Dec 2013 #18

Since when is the truth "Right out of the Twilight Zone"? beevul Dec 2013 #13

Your truth. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #14

Mercy shenmue Dec 2013 #6

That overall total (58) appears too low, as does the number between petronius Dec 2013 #8

Mother Jones had a piece showing that mass shootings have increased BainsBane Dec 2013 #9

It's odd. Schools are, in general, MUCH less violent than 20 years ago Recursion Dec 2013 #34

I think the media feeds these mass shooters BainsBane Dec 2013 #35

I think there's definitely something to that Recursion Dec 2013 #36

People are more twisted? BainsBane Dec 2013 #37

Maybe? Or target shooting overtook hunting? Recursion Dec 2013 #38

Do you lump handguns into your definition of assault weapons? Nt hack89 Dec 2013 #43

IMO, both sides select data that makes their point. Per capita, mass shootings are dropping. NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #41

This does not meet the SOP for this forum, you should consider self-deleting and moving it. Agschmid Dec 2013 #44