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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 OP

Um ... Okay. 1000words Dec 2013 #1

Like much (most?) performance art . . . MrModerate Dec 2013 #2

Is the art the performance, the reaction or both?... Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #6

It's more of a crafting project, like my candles jberryhill Dec 2013 #9

I'm not eating that cake. n/t MrModerate Dec 2013 #28

All of the above, and none of it matters. n/t MrModerate Dec 2013 #26

What exactly is "silly" about this? Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #18

'Silly' is a grab-bag word for . . . MrModerate Dec 2013 #27

Is that how you see this performance piece? Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #38

Yes. MrModerate Dec 2013 #103

That is inarguably sad. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #107

Why? HappyMe Dec 2013 #108

There is a difference between disliking a work and thinking it "silly." Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #109

Provocative art solicits a response 1000words Dec 2013 #111

Each response needs to be explicated. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #112

Says you. 1000words Dec 2013 #113

I happen to think that your dismissive HappyMe Dec 2013 #115

I happen to think that the elementary school responses in this thread... Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #116

Good for you. HappyMe Dec 2013 #118

THIS is why I hate most defenders of art joeglow3 Dec 2013 #132

That was almost exactly my own experience. Marr Dec 2013 #165

That wouldn't be the traditional, easy position, actually. Marr Dec 2013 #163

I don't just "accept" anything because it's called art, if that's what you're implying. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #170

You've a superior understanding of art, congratulations. Marr Dec 2013 #175

And what is wrong with being shocking? Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #176

Is Jack Ass as worthwhile as Bill Moyers? Marr Dec 2013 #181

Not all shocks are equal. The motivation for the shock is important. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #182

I am not shocked by this piece. kwassa Dec 2013 #186

Interesting. I just ran across this response so we might be out of sequence . . . MrModerate Dec 2013 #187

Ah, okay, so she was asking for it. That sounds familiar... Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #194

In the interview the artist specifically addresses her intent to confront on a sexual level. MrModerate Dec 2013 #199

She's asking for people to think and be provocative. Not be sexist pigs. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #209

I don't think you understand the conventions of performance art . . . MrModerate Dec 2013 #210

Rude and stupid responses should be expected. But not on a message board like DU. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #211

I don't disagree . . . MrModerate Dec 2013 #241

you are exactly right... snooper2 Dec 2013 #280

There are better ways to get a point across. HappyMe Dec 2013 #114

The question is why does someone consider it silly. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #117

Who gets to decide what is silly? HappyMe Dec 2013 #120

An opinion is worthless if it is not backed up with considerable explanation. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #124

You are the one demanding "considerable explanation". HappyMe Dec 2013 #127

I'm not demanding an explanation. I'm saying that without an explanation... Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #131

That's your opinion. HappyMe Dec 2013 #138

Have you been able to find anyone who gives a shit about your disapproval? DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2013 #274

Ahhhh....no. Subjectivity doesn't demand assholery. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #275

my "Primary gut reaction" and my thoughtful, considered opinion Scout Dec 2013 #126

"so what if she shoves a skein of yarn up her vagina" - Ummm, that's kind of the entire point. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #128

sure, cause the vagina and menstruation have NEVER been productive Scout Dec 2013 #135

Oh good grief! HappyMe Dec 2013 #136

But why was it gross? Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #140

Because being a pig and flinging your HappyMe Dec 2013 #144

So it's a minor annoyance that trash was not disposed of properly. How does that make it gross? Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #147

It's a biohazard. HappyMe Dec 2013 #149

Discarded feminine hygiene products do not constitute a biohazard according to OSHA. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #152

And....? HappyMe Dec 2013 #154

Haha! RiffRandell Dec 2013 #220

The same reason a booger on the wall is gross. Marr Dec 2013 #167

Ah, so art can only answer deeper questions than what constitutes grossness. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #169

Art can address any question the artist likes. Marr Dec 2013 #172

What does make a used tampon gross? Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #174

My guess is it's the same thing that makes ear wax gross, boogers, and toe jam gross. /nt Marr Dec 2013 #177

You haven't actually answered the question. You've just shifted to other things. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #178

I suppose it's a question for the world's 3rd grade philosophers. Marr Dec 2013 #183

No, abjectness and grossness are deeply related. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #184

This is the sort of silly excrement-doodling the art world has become thoughtlessly attached to. Marr Dec 2013 #189

How are abjectness and grossness related? kwassa Dec 2013 #191

Actually they did. You just can't respond. joeglow3 Dec 2013 #222

You still haven't answered the question without being circular. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #235

Damn. I've been to some dive bars but I've never in my life seen that. redqueen Dec 2013 #153

No it isn't a shitty bar. HappyMe Dec 2013 #158

Are you kidding? I've seen it in department stores. SMC22307 Dec 2013 #250

Thank you! HappyMe Dec 2013 #130

Glad I wasn't drinking my coffee when I ran across "political and social activism" . . . MrModerate Dec 2013 #139

Which implies that the artist must handle positive and negative feedback no matter how ridiculous. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #146

We agree on the 'everyone's got an opinion' part . . . MrModerate Dec 2013 #180

Baseless and idiotic? EOTE Dec 2013 #278

Actually, I'm a happy person . . . MrModerate Dec 2013 #133

Maybe Rectal Knitting as a follow-up? WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2013 #3

Did you just compare a brown eye with a pink eye? ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #22

Ha, no. WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2013 #59

It's great for those of us with a sense of humor ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #60

You two need to quit, I really can't stop laughing snooper2 Dec 2013 #282

did you have to go there? Supersedeas Dec 2013 #208

I guess delivery by Christmas is out of the question now jberryhill Dec 2013 #4

Are you saying there's something fishy about the story? 1000words Dec 2013 #23

I'm not going down that slippery slope with you jberryhill Dec 2013 #63

Forgive me, I didn't mean to be lippy. 1000words Dec 2013 #97

It's the knit-picking artsy-fartsy definitions. Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #66

Disappointed to learn that her vagina is not actually doing the knitting. TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #5

I think there is a bar in Tijuana... jberryhill Dec 2013 #10

Interesting contrast redqueen Dec 2013 #74

Very interesting observation...spot on..nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #102

that's what I thought-- it would be like chopsticks and then she'd be doing latch-hook with her ass yurbud Dec 2013 #123

Lots of clickety-clickety noises and then...a nice scarf emerges, perfect for TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #145

and you don't mean your Al Pacino imitation yurbud Dec 2013 #195

That was more of a "hooWAGHHH", if I recall. TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #203

hehe...misleading headline hibbing Dec 2013 #236

Vaginal Yarn Dispensing at best. eShirl Dec 2013 #265

LOL. TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #266

In Japan I saw a vagina that could eject 100 yen coins in time to music. Kablooie Dec 2013 #277

I know right, now if she was able to do it upside down snooper2 Dec 2013 #283

I've never heard of her and I have no comment... TreasonousBastard Dec 2013 #7

I will eye handknit Christmas gifts with new suspicion, myself. TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #17

Red ones I could maybe deal with,but... TreasonousBastard Dec 2013 #20

Chicks rock! zappaman Dec 2013 #8

I'll stick with penis crochet. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #11

you have a point there. grantcart Dec 2013 #34

You got me wondering what I would find with goggle and "penis crochet" grantcart Dec 2013 #166

I guess nothing is ever invented for the first time. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #207

LOL ... you have way too much time on your hands, Grant 1000words Dec 2013 #259

I thought she was going to work the needles with her klegels BainsBane Dec 2013 #12

Same here...I'm thinking, WOW, that's some toned kegels... countryjake Dec 2013 #13

Hi, why does your profile say you are male? uppityperson Dec 2013 #14

The OP has a link to the author.. Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #15

Ah, thank you. I was thinking it'd be neat if a DUer did this. thanks, am tired and confused tonight uppityperson Dec 2013 #16

No worries. Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #21

Thank you for posting this! Luminous Animal Dec 2013 #25

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #213

Best to use the "excerpt" button to distinguish. joshcryer Dec 2013 #39

Well, thank god for blocking. Warpy Dec 2013 #19

Final Jeopardy question: "Shit You Can't Make Up". K.O. Stradivarius Dec 2013 #24

This one time, at knitting camp ... 1000words Dec 2013 #29

That is gross Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #30

so gross The Wielding Truth Dec 2013 #32

I'm a conceptual artist myself Retrograde Dec 2013 #31

"bODY_rEMIx/gOLDBERG_vARIATIONS" by Marie Chouinard, premiered in 2005 for the Venice Biennale's Int Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #33

In the first video at 0:50 Cliffordu makes a cameo appearance. grantcart Dec 2013 #35

That's rather amusing. In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #78

Hey....Can I lick this on Facebook? cliffordu Dec 2013 #104

uhhhh....yeah. that's worth the price of admission Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #41

this is dance. nothing weird about it. and it's obviously a riff on Paxton's 1986 cali Dec 2013 #48

Thanks for the link and reference...nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #100

Wow! Those videos are incredible! nt tblue37 Dec 2013 #263

I like performance art…it is a true act of consent... Tikki Dec 2013 #36

I don't know what to think about Interior Semiotics. joshcryer Dec 2013 #40

For what it is…someone(s) was supposed to feel uneasy... Tikki Dec 2013 #142

Oscar worthy acting then. joshcryer Dec 2013 #264

Stupid runs rampant in this world aristocles Dec 2013 #37

this is one of those giving birth with dolphins and other stupid shit JI7 Dec 2013 #42

No, it's meant to materialize menstruation in such a way that is not inherently abject. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #43

Refreshing to see a non-middle-school-level take on this. redqueen Dec 2013 #82

I'm a-gonna materialize me some abjectifications right now. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #91

"materialize"? lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #122

What makes it incomprehensible? Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #125

"materialize menstruation"? lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #141

No, I like the verb materialize in this context. It fits well into the rhetoric... Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #143

Yes. I was questioning your use of the english language. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #148

Teenagers have been doing that since the beginning of time... snooper2 Dec 2013 #284

performance art = meatspace trolling eShirl Dec 2013 #44

(chuckle) Bravo to her! sibelian Dec 2013 #45

The Hanky Panky trick is amazing to me, how does she do it? countryjake Dec 2013 #50

Sounds like the same girl! sibelian Dec 2013 #99

This message was self-deleted by its author jberryhill Dec 2013 #150

Awwwwww. I know now. sibelian Dec 2013 #200

Yeah I wasn't sure about that jberryhill Dec 2013 #202

True. sibelian Dec 2013 #262

what a self-righteous little prig this woman is. ironic, isn't it? cali Dec 2013 #46

Actually, I'd say that she is the total oppisite of a prigg notadmblnd Dec 2013 #105

Whatever floats her boat. MadrasT Dec 2013 #47

I don't think you need to have a learning difference to find that performance pointless. nt MADem Dec 2013 #52

If she knits really fast with "Pom-Pom" yarn ... intaglio Dec 2013 #49

I knit, but I knit outside the box. kaiden Dec 2013 #51

Lol!!! WCGreen Dec 2013 #64

Pfffffft! mmonk Dec 2013 #75

she did the whole performance art piece to set up that joke. yurbud Dec 2013 #119

I guess not enough people paid attention to her the first go-round.. Ikonoklast Dec 2013 #53

Good grief! HappyMe Dec 2013 #54

Blood. Try field-dressing a deer, either sex. Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #67

That includes blood and guts, HappyMe Dec 2013 #68

No wonder we hate ourselves -- look what's inside! Argh! Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #84

What? HappyMe Dec 2013 #88

With some trepidation, I use this metaphor: A tongue-in-cheek remark. Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #159

Ah, okay. HappyMe Dec 2013 #160

No problem. Field dressing means 2 memorable steps: Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #164

These people thanked Mother Nature, HappyMe Dec 2013 #171

There is a practice in some European countries a well... Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #197

People know, but it's a taboo subject. redqueen Dec 2013 #77

I have never thought of it as taboo. HappyMe Dec 2013 #80

Commercials are neither here nor there. Completely beside the point. redqueen Dec 2013 #81

I don't talk about anybody's bodily functions HappyMe Dec 2013 #86

This isn't about you, though. redqueen Dec 2013 #89

I'm not a part of society? HappyMe Dec 2013 #90

What? redqueen Dec 2013 #92

Well I can only give you my HappyMe Dec 2013 #93

Understood. redqueen Dec 2013 #96

Lost me at the blood stained wool liberal N proud Dec 2013 #55

But at the same time, both sexes shed a lot of blood in competitive sports derby378 Dec 2013 #156

Another interesting observation. redqueen Dec 2013 #161

Whatever works for a person get the red out Dec 2013 #56

If she had knit in the round ... surrealAmerican Dec 2013 #57

Huh? Iggo Dec 2013 #58

Where's the Volvo she keeps talking about? n/t indie9197 Dec 2013 #61

There are very few performance artist and their "art" Le Taz Hot Dec 2013 #62

I don't get it Marrah_G Dec 2013 #65

Well, she get her millions of YT views, so mission accomplished... Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #69

+1000 Liberal_in_LA Dec 2013 #214

OMG closeupready Dec 2013 #70

lol! I was kind of waiting for someone to say that. HappyMe Dec 2013 #71

lol Dash87 Dec 2013 #72

Things like this make me wish I was jberryhill Dec 2013 #73

I suppose we all have our own crosses to bear. closeupready Dec 2013 #76

Someone upthread mentioned 'a show in Tijuana'. redqueen Dec 2013 #79

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #83

I'm trying to imagine shoving great wads of yarn up my vagina. .. riderinthestorm Dec 2013 #85

that was my thought--something dry and itchy, slowly rotating for 28 days yurbud Dec 2013 #121

I wish I could un-see that. ohheckyeah Dec 2013 #87

This is not art. This is no different from Lady Gaga's meat dress, like... Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2013 #94

Do you actually understand the message behind this? Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #110

oh please, DO explain it to we immature middle-schoolers!! Scout Dec 2013 #129

I imagine that most middle-schoolers know that knitting with one's vagina is impossible. redqueen Dec 2013 #157

THat's not vaginal knitting! It's conventional knitting ... MNBrewer Dec 2013 #95

spot on, this. n/t Scout Dec 2013 #137

Wow. I completely missed the raging debate about this work. rrneck Dec 2013 #98

I just threw up in my mouth LordGlenconner Dec 2013 #101

Grab a skein of yarn and crochet a doily. SMC22307 Dec 2013 #253

If her objective was to get a conversation going... Laffy Kat Dec 2013 #106

Weird. polly7 Dec 2013 #134

not sure what "ideas" she's attempting to express, but magical thyme Dec 2013 #151

Wonder what she'll do as a follow up. dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #155

!... TeeYiYi Dec 2013 #173

Oh hum. earthside Dec 2013 #162

That's digusting and she deserves every insult she got and more. RiffRandell Dec 2013 #168

Are you kidding me? Are you really suggesting that her art is simply a result of not having sex? Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #179

Let me ask you something. HappyMe Dec 2013 #185

Does it make any difference to my argument if I was one or the other? Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #188

Are you male or female? HappyMe Dec 2013 #190

Unless you can justify such a disclosure, you're not getting an answer. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #193

Garble wharble! HappyMe Dec 2013 #196

Ah so now you've basically just resorted to calling me a dirty hippie. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #205

LOL! HappyMe Dec 2013 #206

I'm dying here LittleBlue Dec 2013 #251

Gravity Collapse used to be open about being male. Quantess Dec 2013 #271

Knitting bloody/plain yarn out of a vagina is not art to me. RiffRandell Dec 2013 #212

What about piss christ or Texasgal Dec 2013 #215

Those were made by men. Therefore it's okay. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #217

No, you're embarrassing to this website because of your disgusting, woman hating rhetoric. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #216

Did you ever hear of vibrators? RiffRandell Dec 2013 #218

But you mentioned her physical attrubutes Texasgal Dec 2013 #219

Oh well. RiffRandell Dec 2013 #221

It was defiantly shock value Texasgal Dec 2013 #224

Not at all. RiffRandell Dec 2013 #226

would you have wondered why piss Texasgal Dec 2013 #229

You know, it's funny... Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #228

Certainly not the only poster whose contributions to this thread ... 1000words Dec 2013 #233

Hmmmm those tactics seem awfully familiar. redqueen Dec 2013 #270

Oh so you were merely implying that she needed to go fuck herself. That's much better. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #223

She did, with yarn. RiffRandell Dec 2013 #227

She said in the video that on occasion it was physically arousing. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #232

Sorry, you lost me in the spin. polly7 Dec 2013 #230

Well, it's not. The poster implied that something else needed to be inserted to her vagina. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #231

Bullshit. RiffRandell Dec 2013 #234

She was talking about physical arousal. Which is the result of physical stimulation. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #237

I don't get aroused by inserting or removing a tampon. RiffRandell Dec 2013 #239

I interpreted it as she needed some kind of attention. polly7 Dec 2013 #238

On the contrary, I've been begging people all afternoon to explain themselves. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #240

I'm not sure how you got to 'female hysteria' out of this. polly7 Dec 2013 #242

There's a difference between not enjoying the art and calling an artist physically ugly. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #244

Your strange accusations throughout this thread polly7 Dec 2013 #246

She could be a good spokesperson for Monistat. RiffRandell Dec 2013 #247

That's for sure ... polly7 Dec 2013 #252

I ain't art unless you suffer! 1000words Dec 2013 #255

LOL ... polly7 Dec 2013 #257

Another MRA that doesn't approve... Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #201

This message was self-deleted by its author lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #249

I'm very glad it is important and meaningful to her LadyHawkAZ Dec 2013 #192

If you are making vagina art when you are menstruating would that art be called a .... Botany Dec 2013 #198

Nice one! redqueen Dec 2013 #204

This just seems like someone trying too hard to be edgy...sorry. likesmountains 52 Dec 2013 #225

I hope no one follows this up with penis knitting NoOneMan Dec 2013 #243

Vaginal knitting what the foook? LittleBlue Dec 2013 #245

The very best DU handle is now taken! 1000words Dec 2013 #248

... LittleBlue Dec 2013 #254

Wonder whose sock that is? LAGC Dec 2013 #256

I'd like to welcome our new poster. 1000words Dec 2013 #260

Bizarre... one_voice Dec 2013 #258

Okay, I went back and looked at this thing. rrneck Dec 2013 #261

Sooo... the video is a protest of the male gaze? lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #267

That's part of it. rrneck Dec 2013 #268

Along similar lines: Lizzie Poppet Dec 2013 #269

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #272

Now THAT is what I call a cunning stunt. (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #273

Calvin would have something to say about this. sir pball Dec 2013 #276

lol thats great Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #281

This is the funniest shit I have seen in at least four years snooper2 Dec 2013 #279

This piece of performance art is pretty easy to MineralMan Dec 2013 #285

Archiving...I'm the 'vaginal knitting' perfomance artist – and I want to defend my work Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #286