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Jackpine Radical

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29. Warren & Sanders hare my overall perspective.

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 10:37 AM

Dec 2013

They are also in a position in which they sometimes have to make unpalatable choices. To demand everything is sometimes to get nothing.

I have no particular idea what underlies their vote here. It could be a calculation that more harm would arise from voting against. It could be that they're logrolling in order to get something else in another bill. Maybe they're just choosing their battles carefully and saving their oppositional votes for instances where the votes will actually matter. Who knows?

I sure as hell don't have the information needed to micromanage them; the most I can do is to judge where their hearts lie (based on other clear actions and statements) and trust that they continue to be true to their track record.

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Both Sanders and Warren just voted for the bipartisan budget compromise bill [View all] Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 OP

Then I trust it was the best alternative MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #1

"And Obama signs 'em... with gusto" Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #2

Damn! You bet! nt MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #4

Do you think Obama should veto the bill? Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #12

I'm guessing not if Warren and Sanders voted for it. nt MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #13

You seemed to be going after Obama on the budget prior to the Warren and Sanders votes Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #15

Warren and Sanders want to increase Social Security MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #16

Is that ProSense Dec 2013 #17

One trillion dollars a year. To Jamie, Llloyd and the rest of the gang. MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #20

Ah, so ProSense Dec 2013 #22

"�I know both those guys; they are very savvy businessmen." MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #23

Again ProSense Dec 2013 #24

So Presidents fill the White House with people they disagree with MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #25

I didn't ProSense Dec 2013 #26

Warren and Sanders may be in a position where they hate this deal, but see no better alternative yeoman6987 Dec 2013 #28

Warren & Sanders hare my overall perspective. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #29

I think what you say about they want another bill: KoKo Dec 2013 #34

Face it, Manny. woo me with science Dec 2013 #32

I hadn't seen your linked post before. It's dead on. MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #35

Can you do it? woo me with science Dec 2013 #39

I didn't see it either. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #36

I think you or Manny should do it. :) woo me with science Dec 2013 #40

you were bashing Obama "with gusto" over this budget... scheming daemons Dec 2013 #37

The purity police will look the other way on this I think. JoePhilly Dec 2013 #3

The purity police eventually have to deal with the fact that votes are taken and recorded Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #7

Well said. JoePhilly Dec 2013 #8

Yes...they refer to Obama as a corporatist lackey doing the bidding of the 1% Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #10

+100 JustAnotherGen Dec 2013 #31

Somewhere, a nativity scene is missing its straw. n/t winter is coming Dec 2013 #5

Oh, for something this size it must be several. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #14

- quinnox Dec 2013 #6

Doesn't this deal mean that there will be no "hostage taking"? panader0 Dec 2013 #9

No it doesn't. former9thward Dec 2013 #38

On the other side of that coin, both Fischer and Hagel voted against. LiberalAndProud Dec 2013 #11

Fischer and Hagel jamzrockz Dec 2013 #18

I should have already edited this. It was Johanns, not Hagel. LiberalAndProud Dec 2013 #19

Predictable. LWolf Dec 2013 #21

The use of "purity police" really really CMSU. djean111 Dec 2013 #30

+1. I'm beginning to think there's a minimum number of threads per day that must be started winter is coming Dec 2013 #33

Is this the deal that doesn't include extending long term unemployment? Nt abelenkpe Dec 2013 #27