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seabeyond

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27. i admitted i am highly visible and well hated. also, i call out the offensive, which offends.

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 01:51 PM

Dec 2013

one of the alerts was a post in this subthread. i called out sexism on du. is a feminist to ignore the sexism in our immediate area? i called it out. i did not name call. i presented the issue. and did it civilly. and ya... it offended. because it is offensive. hence, me calling it out. 3-3. just needed one other person to be offended that i called out what i saw a comparison on du with the issue of rape porn, with what i see this hate group doing.

that only leaves me to believe that i was that close to being told i could not call out what i see as a comparable.

on a very real and damaging subject to women.

how much "nicer" do i have to state my position to not offend someone.

am i offending someone now, by bluntly stating what i believe?

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'Men's Rights' Trolls Spam Occidental College Online Rape Report Form [View all] geek tragedy Dec 2013 OP

"Men's Rights". Oh, puhleeze. More White, Christian males playing "victim." Arrgh! catbyte Dec 2013 #1

Pigs ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #2

Total self-fulfilling prophecy. alp227 Dec 2013 #3

Ah, didn't know about Barack attending there. Trolls gotta troll, mindless twits... freshwest Dec 2013 #4

Men's Rights? I bet they also bemoan the lack of a White History Month. sagat Dec 2013 #5

K&r idwiyo Dec 2013 #6

whether du men defending rape porn, or these men, the underlining issue is the total dismissal of seabeyond Dec 2013 #7

it burns their asses that a woman might be believed over a man geek tragedy Dec 2013 #9

and this post of mine was alerted on. just this morning, i have had three people send me three seabeyond Dec 2013 #10

Something has to be done about alert stalking. redqueen Dec 2013 #11

How might we identify/police such stalking? Orrex Dec 2013 #12

Only the admins can see who's alerting redqueen Dec 2013 #15

Makes sense, but it seems that there is already an impression of stalking Orrex Dec 2013 #16

In a general context I agree. redqueen Dec 2013 #18

Here's how I see it BainsBane Dec 2013 #83

Good way of explaining it... nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #94

That's a possibility Orrex Dec 2013 #96

I don't believe I've ever alerted on you BainsBane Dec 2013 #97

Yeah, I think I've alerted on just one or two posts during my time on DU3 (neither of them yours!) Orrex Dec 2013 #99

Too many negatives in that sentence for me to decipher BainsBane Dec 2013 #101

LOL Orrex Dec 2013 #124

That's the way it looks to me. In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #227

Alert stalking is a problem. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #19

It would be interesting to see the demographic ratio of Male DUers to Female DUers. - Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #41

Well, when you have well-known and longtime liberalhistorian Dec 2013 #75

Agree Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #109

Or posters who call women dogs because they don't agree with them.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #123

or posters say that a poster did something, and they didnt. it was an anology. at least seabeyond Dec 2013 #125

LOL ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #130

Truly does boggle the mind to watch you Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #178

I'm not going to link to your disgusting post ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #231

Still having comprehension issues I see Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #177

Let's see what we get... Agschmid Dec 2013 #191

how kind of you - Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #200

Haha. Agschmid Dec 2013 #202

tuesday.... oh tuesday. what a day. did you see the picture in HOF. i luv it. seabeyond Dec 2013 #203

Rise UP!! Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #206

little girl with a sling shot. yes, indeed. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #207

this thread is cracking me up. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #210

wink... done is done. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #211

Turns out there are more men. Agschmid Dec 2013 #241

is that all you got out of that? really. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #243

Yup. Agschmid Dec 2013 #245

not for nothing but, truly ... do you really expect me to believe that your intentions were in Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #246

I don't expect anything anymore. Agschmid Dec 2013 #247

I want absolutely No More out of you than you Want to give. The end. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #248

reporting bias lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #251

i think when told about three different posts, from three different people about alerts in a morning seabeyond Dec 2013 #17

Kind of depends on the subject, the posts, and the overall context Orrex Dec 2013 #24

i admitted i am highly visible and well hated. also, i call out the offensive, which offends. seabeyond Dec 2013 #27

sea, Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #43

no. i am not. i forget. and TOO many hate me anyway, lol. oh... i need to but meh... what 15, seabeyond Dec 2013 #44

Use it, NOW BainsBane Dec 2013 #85

besides i am a different kinda gal. to me, it is so wrong to have such low expectations seabeyond Dec 2013 #45

I totally understand - I am the same. Zero on my blacklist for the very same reasoning. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #47

use your blacklist lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #49

I suppose you have all fifteen slots filled ... amirite? Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #220

Now I do. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #223

Dudebro, you honor me! How quaint. May I just say that I never alert. I have no one on my jury Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #224

The key to an effective blacklist is maintenance. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #250

Well... Orrex Dec 2013 #52

OR, like what i would do, ASK. seabeyond, what in the world do you mean, that you see seabeyond Dec 2013 #53

In a perfect world, we would have that policy instead of the Alert system Orrex Dec 2013 #55

i am always asking. i am always thanking when i get clarification. and just this morning, seabeyond Dec 2013 #56

Eye of the beholder Orrex Dec 2013 #59

when men state they want rape porn to get off on that looks like real rape and a woman that is raped seabeyond Dec 2013 #60

That's a bit deeper than I have time to engage just now, but here's a start: Orrex Dec 2013 #62

one section at a time, break it down more. seabeyond Dec 2013 #64

That's exactly it. "Fictional" rape porn, at best, is meant to imitate the real thing, to the extent nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #112

this is where i feel we have to lie to ourselves to hold this position. seabeyond Dec 2013 #65

one more thing. i am not here to redebate this or convince you. i believe my argument though is as seabeyond Dec 2013 #69

I'll start with this one and work on the rest a bit later. Orrex Dec 2013 #77

ok. i give. i am the ultimate worst of worst and alert, hide, whatever. nothing to see here. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #78

Well, that was simple enough. Orrex Dec 2013 #98

ya. nto so much. i do not think it cute, or funny. i think seabeyond Dec 2013 #100

I don't understand anything of what you posted there Orrex Dec 2013 #131

Honestly I don't see the "war movie" analogy. We're not talking about "Irreversible" or nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #108

Well, we can't dismiss fiction just because it's realistic, either Orrex Dec 2013 #126

I don't advocate "controlling" anything except *real* videos of rape and torture. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #128

If it might be the real thing then it should be reported Orrex Dec 2013 #134

You're not missing anything. That's exactly how I feel as well. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #138

Glad we sorted that out. Orrex Dec 2013 #141

do you see, even a little, either of you, how casually you ride over a woman being raped for mens seabeyond Dec 2013 #142

It troubles me that you are unable to distinguish fiction from reality, even a little Orrex Dec 2013 #149

do you know how many people tell me daily i am a man hater, a prude, a dworkinite, anti sex, seabeyond Dec 2013 #155

+1 xulamaude Dec 2013 #164

I am not defending people who have called you those names Orrex Dec 2013 #168

"these fictions should be prosecuted as crimes" - "why a work of fiction should be banned" xulamaude Dec 2013 #174

She declared rape porn and spamming a rape reporting site to be the "same underlying issue" Orrex Dec 2013 #176

I read the 'she started it first' post earlier today xulamaude Dec 2013 #182

So... You have the ability to dictate to people what they think and feel? Interesting. Orrex Dec 2013 #183

Wow. Just wow. xulamaude Dec 2013 #186

Ah, yes. I disagree with you, therefore I must. not. get. it. Orrex Dec 2013 #187

It was .undoubtedly. my greatest pleasure, sir... nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #188

More's the pity. Orrex Dec 2013 #189

lol X. dontcha love the picture in HOF. i LUV that picture. seabeyond Dec 2013 #190

This. redqueen Dec 2013 #214

Another righteous crusader dictating how and why people think and feel. Terrific. Orrex Dec 2013 #217

Do you somehow miss the significance of marketing the porn as REAL RAPE? redqueen Dec 2013 #219

In other words, you also lack the capacity to distinguish fiction from fact. Orrex Dec 2013 #221

You blithely instruct people to report rapes that might be real, yet you sit there and tell me redqueen Dec 2013 #222

She's also not the only one who's received this kind of treatment, for similar reasons. Just saying. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #102

I have no way to speculate on who is hitting Alert on them Orrex Dec 2013 #129

This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Dec 2013 #132

Are you asking how I would have voted, if I'd been on the jury? Orrex Dec 2013 #140

This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Dec 2013 #148

I think that Skinner gave a pretty solid answer to this already Orrex Dec 2013 #157

This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Dec 2013 #166

yup. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #167

Again, disagreement is interpreted as oppression Orrex Dec 2013 #172

because none of this was about a battle. winner or loser. from the start, in agreement or seabeyond Dec 2013 #192

You seem not to accept that people can understand and still disagree Orrex Dec 2013 #195

no. i know you did not even begin to understand. because at no point did you perceive the issue seabeyond Dec 2013 #197

Ah. So the "women who walked" have the power to tell me what i perceive Orrex Dec 2013 #204

This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Dec 2013 #156

if feminists cannot point out sexism in our immediate area, the board. how effective are we at being seabeyond Dec 2013 #14

If you're temp-banned you can't do it at all. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #25

we are being called "emotionally damaged" had another tells us that today. and i am not suppose seabeyond Dec 2013 #29

I didn't call you anything. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #34

k. cause i came this..... seabeyond Dec 2013 #36

sea, Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #48

"dial it back a notch ... as if." as if as in.... i wouldnt even know how. ya, seabeyond Dec 2013 #50

I guess mercuryblues Dec 2013 #54

there ya go. yes. that is when i hear it.... seabeyond Dec 2013 #57

No. One can navigate the course without being nice at all. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #58

You wouldn't have more than 4 hides if you didn't tell people to "f*** off" LittleBlue Dec 2013 #136

fitman sent women in hof abusive, vulgar pms... from day one an obvious misogynist troll. an hour seabeyond Dec 2013 #139

It sucks LittleBlue Dec 2013 #143

the first was to fitman as i said. the second was telling the poster that said screw off.... seabeyond Dec 2013 #144

Polly's post was hidden LittleBlue Dec 2013 #150

i did NOT tell her to fuck off. can you not read? i told her, saying screw off is the same as seabeyond Dec 2013 #152

I know, right? polly7 Dec 2013 #173

I reread what you wrote LittleBlue Dec 2013 #175

Exactly! polly7 Dec 2013 #225

and an obvious troll that sat in your group dissing us, and you all welcoming him. yes. seabeyond Dec 2013 #145

My group? LittleBlue Dec 2013 #158

right. seabeyond Dec 2013 #160

Right... er LittleBlue Dec 2013 #162

now, when you want to talk the other tow. you know, the one about soiled schoolgirl undies seabeyond Dec 2013 #151

You cannot rationalize this LittleBlue Dec 2013 #154

i cannot tell a poster that... saying screw off is the same as saying fuck off. seabeyond Dec 2013 #159

The bullshit is that anyone told you to screw off. nt. polly7 Dec 2013 #170

lmao!!! polly7 Dec 2013 #163

and once again, i say i did not read your post cause of your attacks, saw screw off seabeyond Dec 2013 #165

riiiiigggggghht. polly7 Dec 2013 #171

thank you. yes. the words really clarify. i appreciate it. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #193

And I still don't appreciate your sexist treament and ramping it up after being polly7 Dec 2013 #194

sexist treatment? lol. and here you start immediately and i stop reading seabeyond Dec 2013 #198

As was completely expected. polly7 Dec 2013 #199

should be, woman. (am i allowed to call you woman without being sexist?). i stop reading seabeyond Dec 2013 #201

The mental gymnastics it takes polly7 Dec 2013 #205

i am agile, flexible and fluid. yes, indeed. thank you. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #209

And so (not at all) funny, too! polly7 Dec 2013 #213

see, first sentence, .... no readie. right? we have done this drill before. too many times seabeyond Dec 2013 #215

Yes, actually I have seen you do this same thing many, many times. nt. polly7 Dec 2013 #218

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Capt. Obvious Dec 2013 #236

Just as observation here. It is not a matter of the jury not paying attention... Drahthaardogs Dec 2013 #228

having served 600 juries, if i am not clear what a person is talking about, i look at the post that seabeyond Dec 2013 #229

Yeah that was actually pretty clear. Drahthaardogs Dec 2013 #230

"UN PO' "?? help me out. not really. the thing, it is just you and i. back and forth. seabeyond Dec 2013 #232

Un po' = a little Drahthaardogs Dec 2013 #235

isnt that interesting drahth, thank you for striking up this conversation seabeyond Dec 2013 #237

oh. and what in the world was i alerted on? i didnt say or do anything wrong, lol... seabeyond Dec 2013 #238

It was not an alert on this post, it was on another Drahthaardogs Dec 2013 #242

i see thanks. that is cool to hear. i like people exploring thought, agree or not. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #244

I suppose we could all stand to "dial it back a notch" when it comes to putting words nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #118

not to get too far off the subject DonCoquixote Dec 2013 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Dec 2013 #153

Both systems are subject to abuse, but Meta was downright sinister. nt Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #208

I'm not surprised. xmas74 Dec 2013 #147

got a deal xmas. lol. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #161

What makes you think that the users of the anonymous reporting tool are women? lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #32

No, the form does not allow that to happen. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #38

you can't investigate Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #80

MRAs are among the lowest of the scum trawling the basement Arkana Dec 2013 #240

That'll show those feminists! NuclearDem Dec 2013 #8

Am I the only one who thinks an open-access online form is a bad idea? Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #13

Are SOME rape reports false? Of course. politichew Dec 2013 #20

few false rape. not a mere some. but, few. the propaganda being pushed by the mens groups are seabeyond Dec 2013 #21

Yeah, I assumed it was in the single digits. politichew Dec 2013 #22

exactly. thank you... nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #23

I think they are also showing that anonymous online crime reporting is an invitation to abuse. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #26

oh bullshit. like isnt that considerate of them to protect women so. fuck. that is offensive, ... seabeyond Dec 2013 #28

I find it ironic... lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #30

how many men have been charged, expelled, convicted from that site? nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #31

Now that the limitations of the tool have been exposed, I imagine that few will be. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #35

that did not answer the question. i imagine they had safe guards up and were not expelling right seabeyond Dec 2013 #37

a) Then what's it good for? lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #40

see. i was too lazy to get the actual info about the purpose. i was clever enough to know it could seabeyond Dec 2013 #42

Your argument is based on facts you are making up. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #39

Then what's it good for? lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #46

Well, the school would be able to start an investigation based on such geek tragedy Dec 2013 #51

Wow phil89 Dec 2013 #181

The Men's Rights pigs on Reddit combine sexual frustration geek tragedy Dec 2013 #184

Shit like this makes me re-think that whole "violence is never the answer" thing. 11 Bravo Dec 2013 #61

This kind of online anonymous reporting system is too open to abuse and is a bad idea. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #63

are the men that did this pathetic bottom feeding assholes? nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #66

Some of those MRA redditors may be participating in this very thread. nt geek tragedy Dec 2013 #71

who noes!11!!!!11!! nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #79

Yes. But the existence of this kind of asshole is one of the reasons this is a bad idea. (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #180

Thinking about the Sandusky scandal at Penn State, I think Occidental has instituted a bad idea. JVS Dec 2013 #169

Excellent points. Thank you (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #179

Hey, too bad this woman didn't attend good old Oxy.. Upton Dec 2013 #67

For every one (1) man falsely accused of rape, there are about sixty (60) men who get away it geek tragedy Dec 2013 #68

what? and another 50 women raped but said nothing? nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #70

I was going off that chart's numbers. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #73

better man than i am with all the math, lol. thanks. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #76

Did you see the thread where it was asserted that it's better that all rapists go unpunished redqueen Dec 2013 #72

There's a really offensive phrase geek tragedy Dec 2013 #74

I've heard the reverse used as well: hos before bros. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #82

cool story, bro. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #84

Yeah, your's too. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #86

the phrase 'hoes before bros' is usually used thusly geek tragedy Dec 2013 #89

Got a cite for that? Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #92

check out urban dictionary. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #107

This message was self-deleted by its author Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #88

At Thu Dec 19, 2013, 03:52 PM an alert was sent on the following post FrodosPet Dec 2013 #104

You've got to be kidding! I think maybe alerts shouldn't be anonymous. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #117

Bad alert. Should have been 0-6. nt geek tragedy Dec 2013 #185

Why... yes! This would be a perfect example of alert trolling. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #196

You've been missing out. It's an ancient concept about innocence. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #81

the mansplanation is greatly appreciated, to be sure nt geek tragedy Dec 2013 #87

Gratuitous crap is all you've got? Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #90

perhaps if you had not struck the "of course you probably don't know this but" tone . . . geek tragedy Dec 2013 #110

You're whining about tone? That's funny. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #111

In this case, what you failed to address is the idea that the rights of the accused geek tragedy Dec 2013 #113

What I addressed was Redqueen's apparent lack of familiarity with Blackstone's ratio. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #120

"civilized societies" xulamaude Dec 2013 #122

How is anyone to know... countryjake Dec 2013 #119

People get to know one another on this site BainsBane Dec 2013 #135

That was 100% mansplaining. xulamaude Dec 2013 #121

It takes a concerted effort BainsBane Dec 2013 #95

You're laboring under a misapprehension. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #103

Yet why is it that this presumption is raised in every single rape thread BainsBane Dec 2013 #114

I can't speak for other posters. Carry on. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #115

I observe threads BainsBane Dec 2013 #133

Which is why I don't reply to these types of threads davidpdx Dec 2013 #226

"People have a way of displaying exactly who they are in these threads." redqueen Dec 2013 #233

Duh. Do you seriously think I haven't heard that? redqueen Dec 2013 #216

Classic self-centeredness right there. As if it were an "either/or" matter anyway. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #116

This is one reason it's so revolting. redqueen Dec 2013 #234

I really don't think most men have any trouble telling if a woman wants to have sex with him BainsBane Dec 2013 #249

Oh, absolutely. Mutual participation is always best, by far. n/t nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #252

Out of curiosity, this seems to assume that each rape is committed by a different rapist mythology Dec 2013 #93

Not really disagreeing with anything you're writing, geek tragedy Dec 2013 #106

Yes, because women are by nature evil BainsBane Dec 2013 #91

Those guys need to get a fucking life. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #105

Well I'm sure that will fix family courts and open men's shelters and fix the economy. LeftyMom Dec 2013 #127

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #137

I wouldn't call 4chan MRA trolls Kurska Dec 2013 #146

good point, but I'd say there's a fair bit of overlap, and a lot of total creeps on 4chan and reddit cemaphonic Dec 2013 #212

These people are subhuman slime. Arkana Dec 2013 #239