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Jefferson23

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19. You are sadly misguided. More guns in the hands of Ameican citizens will not make the US

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 06:19 PM

Dec 2013

more benevolent....only more brutal. The gun culture in the US is unhinged as demonstrated by
the gun ownership per capita is far greater than any other nation, thus so are the number
of murders and massacre.

Your attempt at context is ludicrous, at best. You leave out that guns are the most common
murder weapon in this country.

Bureau of Justice Statistics found two out of three murders are carried out with guns..but you feel
compelled to add context: There are many things in America that have done that

Considering 2.5 million Americans die annually. Guns are pretty low on the list of things that kill people every year. ( end )

Your repugnant appeal affirming the US is going in the right direction does not address the reality that
the US has a higher murder rate than most other developed countries.

There is no correlation between gun violence and gun availability..nah...lets move along and
focus on greater concerns.

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The legacy of Sandyhook [View all] BainsBane Dec 2013 OP

It's too sad..we are in many ways, as a country...disintegrating. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #1

We're at war with ourselves BainsBane Dec 2013 #2

I think so, the numbers are very real and painful and the response is something out of the Twilight Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #3

There are many things in America that have done that hack89 Dec 2013 #4

Yea, that is a really great response. Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #5

Just putting the hyperbole in context hack89 Dec 2013 #7

I know what your point was, and I do not appreciate it...not at all. Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #10

And your context does not change the fact hack89 Dec 2013 #11

DC was supposed to turn into the Wild West after Heller Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #12

I am so pleased to learn as a nation, things are going in the right direction. Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #15

When it comes to crime and violence it most definitely is hack89 Dec 2013 #17

You are sadly misguided. More guns in the hands of Ameican citizens will not make the US Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #19

We have cut our murder rate in half and it continues to decline hack89 Dec 2013 #20

I already have..but keep up the less violent meme, as it means so much to you and Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #21

Are you denying that violence has decreased significantly? hack89 Dec 2013 #22

Your links do not change the facts in my earlier post. Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #23

Gun violence decreased despite those roll backs hack89 Dec 2013 #24

I could be wrong, but I do believe you are behaving willfully obtuse. Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #25

Every year there is less violence hack89 Dec 2013 #26

Every year there is less violence and the level of violence is Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #27

"Off the charts"? Ok. Nt hack89 Dec 2013 #28

Yes, homicides one of the highest of all developed countries. Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #29

Pleasure talking to you. See you around. Nt hack89 Dec 2013 #31

Yep. laundry_queen Dec 2013 #30

The point is more guns did not increase the number of gun deaths hack89 Dec 2013 #32

Not really, since it doesn't seem you are interested in listening laundry_queen Dec 2013 #33

Of course you refuse hack89 Dec 2013 #39

What is wrong with emotion based arguments? laundry_queen Dec 2013 #40

At least you are honest and don't try to hide your disdain for rational thought hack89 Dec 2013 #42

And I'm glad you don't hide your ice cold grinch heart for all to see. laundry_queen Dec 2013 #45

I favor increased gun control hack89 Dec 2013 #46

I understand your point but with cigarettes it is a self inflicted death with all we know about firsttimer Dec 2013 #16

The post I was addressing was talking about all gun deaths hack89 Dec 2013 #18

Since when is the truth "Right out of the Twilight Zone"? beevul Dec 2013 #13

Your truth. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #14

Mercy shenmue Dec 2013 #6

That overall total (58) appears too low, as does the number between petronius Dec 2013 #8

Mother Jones had a piece showing that mass shootings have increased BainsBane Dec 2013 #9

It's odd. Schools are, in general, MUCH less violent than 20 years ago Recursion Dec 2013 #34

I think the media feeds these mass shooters BainsBane Dec 2013 #35

I think there's definitely something to that Recursion Dec 2013 #36

People are more twisted? BainsBane Dec 2013 #37

Maybe? Or target shooting overtook hunting? Recursion Dec 2013 #38

Do you lump handguns into your definition of assault weapons? Nt hack89 Dec 2013 #43

IMO, both sides select data that makes their point. Per capita, mass shootings are dropping. NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #41

This does not meet the SOP for this forum, you should consider self-deleting and moving it. Agschmid Dec 2013 #44