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In reply to the discussion: Goodbye. Goodbye. GOODBYE. Get the fuck out already. [View all]KansDem
(28,498 posts)54. "...but at least the banks paid the loans back with interest."
Did they?
More than half of $4 billion in federal funds disbursed this year to spur small-business lending by community banks was used to repay bailout funds that the banks received under the government's Troubled Asset Relief Program.
The Small Business Lending Fund was meant to raise capital at smaller banks, which tend to lend more heavily to small businesses, in the hopes of jump-starting growth and employment. But instead of directly lending to small businesses, many of the banks used the money to rid themselves of higher-cost TARP debt and tougher restrictions.
"It was basically a bailout for 100-plus banks," said Giovanni Coratolo, vice president of small-business policy at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. "From a point of view of a small business owner, it was very ineffective in getting funds out to small business."
WSJ
The Small Business Lending Fund was meant to raise capital at smaller banks, which tend to lend more heavily to small businesses, in the hopes of jump-starting growth and employment. But instead of directly lending to small businesses, many of the banks used the money to rid themselves of higher-cost TARP debt and tougher restrictions.
"It was basically a bailout for 100-plus banks," said Giovanni Coratolo, vice president of small-business policy at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. "From a point of view of a small business owner, it was very ineffective in getting funds out to small business."
WSJ
And...
WHILE THE media focused on the Washington charade over raising the federal debt ceiling and cutting the estimated budget deficit, a a one-time audit of the Federal Reserve released in late July showed that the Treasury Department and Federal Reserve Bank have doled out an incredible $16 trillion in assistance to financial institutions and corporations in the U.S. and around the world.
The audit, conducted by the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO), was mandated as part of the Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act sponsored by Democratic lawmakers Christopher Dodd and Barney Frank.
The audit revealed that the various emergency lending facilities, guarantee programs and bailouts for Wall Street--a project wholeheartedly supported by both major parties--was in itself far larger than the deficit that now has the same parties gunning for deep cuts to critical social programs.
Socialist Worker
The audit, conducted by the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO), was mandated as part of the Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act sponsored by Democratic lawmakers Christopher Dodd and Barney Frank.
The audit revealed that the various emergency lending facilities, guarantee programs and bailouts for Wall Street--a project wholeheartedly supported by both major parties--was in itself far larger than the deficit that now has the same parties gunning for deep cuts to critical social programs.
Socialist Worker
Paid back?!!
We were fleeced...BIG TIME!
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Then it's time to cut the Pentagon budget, to slash it actually, and to start prosecuting the
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#4
'with their hands out, looking for a bailout'! Lol, and exactly what would be wrong with that
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#12
I didn't agree with those bailouts either, but at least the banks paid the loans back with interest.
badtoworse
Dec 2013
#18
It's more erudite than your repetition of right-wing talking points on public pensions.
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#39
They still have the SBA loans on their books, but at a lower interest rate than the TARP loans.
badtoworse
Dec 2013
#57
I was actually thinking of the large I Banks like Goldman, Citi, Deutsche Bank, AIG, etc.
badtoworse
Dec 2013
#66
Detroit and Illinois's financial problems are not due to public pensions.
Gidney N Cloyd
Dec 2013
#16
I took no position, implied or otherwise, as to why towns and cities would be unable to pay.
badtoworse
Dec 2013
#40
"The city owes $15B" -- that is not immediate debt, but long-term debt, and that figure is
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#67
I'm getting tired of people spreading propaganda. I don't ignore that reality, but I do attempt
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#75
When you lead people to infer that pensions are what's draining gov't coffers people don't look at..
Gidney N Cloyd
Dec 2013
#44
Reasonable in the context of what Detroit's pensioners and workers are likely to get.
badtoworse
Dec 2013
#19
That is baloney. Detroit's pensions are 91% funded. The "reality" is that there has been a
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#36
You didn't tell the reason why they won't have the money. The politicians that promised it stole it.
Ikonoklast
Dec 2013
#45
Those promises are valid under each succeeding politician. Those contracts don't just go away.
Ikonoklast
Dec 2013
#51
That is all true, but at the end of the day, the problem still has to be solved.
badtoworse
Dec 2013
#53
No, they would not. Cities with good credit ratings would have no problem borrowing money.
Ikonoklast
Dec 2013
#70
Sorry, you're just spreading bankster BS. The city could raise BILLIONS in additional tax revenue
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#69
If we made our taxes even flat, which is completely unfair to the poor, though much better than
Squinch
Dec 2013
#46
I think unions should act in their own interest, but refusing to negotiate may not be the best move.
badtoworse
Dec 2013
#52
Detroit is not the canary in the coal mine any more than Bethlehem PA was. Both are cities that
Squinch
Dec 2013
#60
No kidding. So we shouldn't be talking as if the only choices are bankruptcy or union capitulation.
Squinch
Dec 2013
#62
That was in the context of a city going broke. Of course there are other scenarios.
badtoworse
Dec 2013
#63
He cares about his money. That's it. Period. People? He could give a good rat's ass.
Lint Head
Dec 2013
#8
He always displayed an almost Royal disdain for the little people. It always amazed me that he ever
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#13
Kind of blows that whole New York City intellectual image, doesn't it? n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2013
#30
what a disgusting comparison. yeah....Billionaire profiteers are exactly equivalent to
Pretzel_Warrior
Dec 2013
#15
Umm, isn't the "people-electoral" complex kind of how democracy is supposed to work?
reformist2
Dec 2013
#27
Billionaire Bloomberg Explains Homeless Children: ‘That’s Just the Way God Works’
napkinz
Dec 2013
#33
“Michael Bloomberg is the most corrupt politician New York has seen in our generation.”
El_Johns
Dec 2013
#38
Remember when Bloomberg and his filthy cronies assaulted Occupy Wall Street?
Dawson Leery
Dec 2013
#77