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71. Are you Snowden's puppetmaster?

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Thu Dec 19, 2013, 07:46 PM

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Who Broke The Law, Snowden Or The NSA? - By J. Kirk Wiebe - CNN [View all] WillyT Dec 2013 OP

Former Top NSA Official: ''We Are Now In A Police State'' Octafish Dec 2013 #1

Yep... WillyT Dec 2013 #2

Mr. Wiebe is spot-on. Octafish Dec 2013 #3

prosecution is the only way back to freedom questionseverything Dec 2013 #14

Commie GESTAPO, the STASI, would LOVE what NSACIAFBIDIANROWhoKnowsWhatElse can do. Octafish Dec 2013 #57

Unbelievable! sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #30

I consider the people who fail or refuse to understand this the real American traitors whatchamacallit Dec 2013 #4

I agree in toto. bvar22 Dec 2013 #5

Thank you!!!! Luminous Animal Dec 2013 #6

This is why I hate the names on the guardian documents being redacted Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #7

knr Douglas Carpenter Dec 2013 #8

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #9

Anytime... Uncle Joe, Anytime... WillyT Dec 2013 #51

There are jobbs and positions which require the information obtained through these positions Thinkingabout Dec 2013 #10

Except That Judge Leon Could Not Have Made That Ruling In This Case If It Weren't For Snowden... WillyT Dec 2013 #13

If the collection of phone call records is against the Constitution then it is also wrong for Thinkingabout Dec 2013 #20

That has to be the most convoluted twisted argument I have read about this in a while hueymahl Dec 2013 #23

I did not write the Whistleblower Act nor did I vote on the act, it is what it is, there are good Thinkingabout Dec 2013 #58

! Hissyspit Dec 2013 #33

You should take "thinking"... sendero Dec 2013 #53

Yes, nevermind the threat to democracy posed by an overreaching security agency... Maedhros Dec 2013 #18

Snowden's actions is an overreach, he has not protected our privacy, he has violated our Thinkingabout Dec 2013 #22

What makes you think that Snowden took records? Luminous Animal Dec 2013 #26

Then he does not have any "proof" and more likely he has violated our privacy since he Thinkingabout Dec 2013 #37

Just as I thought. You've got nothing. Nobody needs individual records to provide Luminous Animal Dec 2013 #50

He's trying to use a damned if he does, damned if he doesn't argument. Aerows Dec 2013 #59

What proof do you have the I have made anything up. The collection of phone call records Thinkingabout Dec 2013 #60

Just admit Aerows Dec 2013 #61

There are channels available Snowden could have used, he chose not to for whatever reason. Thinkingabout Dec 2013 #64

"I prefer to have my Constitutional rights on privacy honored" Aerows Dec 2013 #65

If you are just learning about the phone call records being collected then you have let lots of time Thinkingabout Dec 2013 #67

LOL Aerows Dec 2013 #68

Talking points indeed, you don't have a talking point when you get the truth so just Thinkingabout Dec 2013 #69

I don't need a talking point Aerows Dec 2013 #70

Are you Snowden's puppetmaster? Thinkingabout Dec 2013 #71

LMAO! Aerows Dec 2013 #72

Telling you that your privacy has been breached is NOT a violation of your privacy DJ13 Dec 2013 #27

Ergo, then there is not a violation of the Constitution by the NSA. Thinkingabout Dec 2013 #38

Ahem... WillyT Dec 2013 #41

Warrants was issued for the NSA to collect the phone call data through the FISC, Snowden did not Thinkingabout Dec 2013 #44

And... Here Come Da (FISA) Judge(s)... WillyT Dec 2013 #45

I'm expecting something along the lines of Aerows Dec 2013 #62

I got this in reply Aerows Dec 2013 #66

If he'd reported the Bush government doing the same, would it still be a crime in your eyes? lark Dec 2013 #32

Do you know the history of the NSA gathering data during the Bush administration? Perhaps Thinkingabout Dec 2013 #39

I am disinclined to ascribe any validity to your opinions. [n/t] Maedhros Dec 2013 #35

Perhaps the feeling is mutual. Thinkingabout Dec 2013 #40

One would imagine. Maedhros Dec 2013 #55

Nonsense. SpcMnky Dec 2013 #29

Is whistle blowers covered under the Whistleblowers Act, no, the act exempts matters of Thinkingabout Dec 2013 #42

Thank you for highlighting the absurdity of the law SpcMnky Dec 2013 #47

Obfuscate, conceal, rinse, repeat. lark Dec 2013 #31

Check the Whistleblower Act, matters concerning security is exempt from protections. Thinkingabout Dec 2013 #43

Failure to report crimes is also a crime: grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #11

It's becoming more and more apparent that the NSA is in violation Cleita Dec 2013 #12

Maybe because it started in 2006 and virtually no one cared. randome Dec 2013 #15

Speak for yourself. Maedhros Dec 2013 #21

Stopping the collection of Meta Data would be a huge victory hueymahl Dec 2013 #24

Oh, the metadata collection may well be stopped. randome Dec 2013 #46

Absolutely. woo me with science Dec 2013 #16

Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Dec 2013 #17

Who has done more harm to the world? The NSA or Snowden.? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #19

He is absolutely, correct. K&R Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #25

Who broke the law you ask ? SamKnause Dec 2013 #28

That is correct! TheKentuckian Dec 2013 #34

K&R Solly Mack Dec 2013 #36

K&R me b zola Dec 2013 #48

Who broke the law... one_voice Dec 2013 #49

Who did Snowden take an oath to? Luminous Animal Dec 2013 #54

amazing how short our knowledge is about history. It was the W. administration's fault that created diabeticman Dec 2013 #52

^ Wilms Dec 2013 #56

For all of Snowden 's critics, how else could be have blown the whistle Dustlawyer Dec 2013 #63