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Fri Dec 20, 2013, 04:22 PM Dec 2013

Yes, Making the Rich Poorer Would Make Everyone Else Richer [View all]

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/12/20-6


The math, in fact, is very straightforward: When huge fortunes at the top are more heavily taxed, it does pay for public goods like pre-K or prison incarceration that can increase life chances for the poor. (Public domain/Tumblr)


Conservatives like to argue that curbing the outsized wealth of the top 1 percent wouldn't do anything to increase economic mobility or reduce inequality. Rich Lowry of the National Review nicely summed up this thinking in a column the other day:

Mark Zuckerberg could be stripped of all his wealth tomorrow, and it wouldn't help anyone further down the income ladder. It wouldn't increase wages, or reduce out-of-wedlock child rearing, or lead to less incarceration or revive the work ethic, all of which would enhance mobility and lift more people into the middle class. It would just make Mark Zuckerberg poor.
Before getting to Lowry's larger point, let's actually look at the math regarding Zuckerberg. His wealth is fluctuating because he's about to dump a bunch of Facebook shares, but as of September 2013 he was worth $19 billion. So to engage Lowry's thought experiment we need to ask whether $19 billion could improve life prospects for those "down the income ladder?"

Obviously so. For example, $19 billion would be more than enough money to provide universal pre-K education for a year to every four-year old in America who now doesn't have this opportunity. Or that money could provide pre-K to every four-year old in Texas who doesn't have it for the next twenty years, with money left over to cover pre-K for every needy four-year old in New York City for the next decade.

Maybe Rich Lowry doesn't think that pre-K makes any difference in life chances, but the majority of parents and social scientists would beg to differ.
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I don't think it can be said too often: they'd still be rich. phantom power Dec 2013 #1
+1 Jamaal510 Dec 2013 #2
Imagine if Zuckerberg's wealth were cut in half overnight. Courtesy Flush Dec 2013 #6
1% of a billion is still one hundred million. I think that the numbers we talk about Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #8
<sigh> a perfect example ....... oldhippie Dec 2013 #12
lol - yep, exactly right . . . well said DrDan Dec 2013 #13
Indeed. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #15
Your math is off by a factor of 10. A hundred million is 10% of a billion. 10 million is 1%. nt Electric Monk Dec 2013 #14
See? Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #16
Can't really add much but I do want to express my disgust at conspicuous opulence. geckosfeet Dec 2013 #3
Ouch. That would hurt! 7962 Dec 2013 #5
Depends on how you spend it. Oklahoma, for example, has near the highest, if not the highest, number jtuck004 Dec 2013 #4
According to Oxfam edhopper Dec 2013 #7
That doesn't sound right. hughee99 Dec 2013 #19
Here is the Oxfam page edhopper Dec 2013 #20
Makes more sense. hughee99 Dec 2013 #21
still a eye opening example of edhopper Dec 2013 #22
But, to "the rich" one has to add the rich & undertaxed corporations BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #9
I think taxes should approach 100% of some multiple of minimum wage... hunter Dec 2013 #10
If the RICH were forced to PAY for the Wars, bvar22 Dec 2013 #18
The article doesn't match the headline. Igel Dec 2013 #11
Huey Long's amazing speech from 1934 CrawlingChaos Dec 2013 #17
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