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9. That's silly, for example, if vets were to use cats as an example, humans would be eating a diet...

Fri Dec 20, 2013, 04:41 PM

Dec 2013

consisting of mostly meat with taurine tablets to make up for the lack of taurine in our cooked food, that cats can't produce, but humans can. Also bear in mind that Humans are one of only a few species that can't produce Vitamin C in our bodies, so we have to get it through our food. So we would end up suffering from scurvy in this situation.

We look to the animal kingdom for similarities, hence animal testing, THEN we do the same to humans, because, while we are animals, we are our own species, with similar but not exact needs as other animals.

To reverse it, if you were to give a cat a human diet, the cat would die of taurine deficiency, something humans cannot suffer from, just like cats can't get scurvy.

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More Thoughts on Woo - and How Doctors Don't Take Women Seriously [View all] IdaBriggs Dec 2013 OP

k&r nt bananas Dec 2013 #1

Excellent rant! livetohike Dec 2013 #2

I could write volumes on the effect of nutrition on the health Holly_Hobby Dec 2013 #3

you sound like an awesome mom! Chrom Dec 2013 #4

Wow. I think you're really onto something here. pnwmom Dec 2013 #5

That's silly, for example, if vets were to use cats as an example, humans would be eating a diet... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #9

Vets, more than many doctors, stress the importance of nutrition. pnwmom Dec 2013 #10

Every time I go to a doctor, they always emphasize the importance of a balanced diet. Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #12

Me too. IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #21

Nothing you said changes the fact that many multivitamins and other supplements... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #6

Preemies don't eat a balanced diet. They consume breast milk or formula pnwmom Dec 2013 #11

Well some, others have to be administered in other ways, such as Vitamin K... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #13

What did she say that is anti-science? pnwmom Dec 2013 #14

First off, she mentions "woo" as if what was the subject of her rant somehow goes against... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #15

If you had read her initial post you wouldn't be so confused. n/t pnwmom Dec 2013 #16

OK so she's even more anti-science than I thought, not to mention not able to understand... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #20

Yes, because begging for a rigorous controlled study IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #26

The issue the Annuals of Internal Medicine was talking about was for healthy adults... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #29

You're making a generalization that is false. pnwmom Dec 2013 #34

Yet. IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #42

What are you talking about? Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #47

I apologize if my analogy was not clear. IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #64

Who mentioned right or wrong here? Those are loaded words, we are talking about... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #46

And I suppose those who fund these peer-reviewed studies fund a lot of them on the Th1onein Dec 2013 #62

the discussion of trace minerals and human physiology is henceforth elehhhhna Dec 2013 #28

No, we are talking about someone misconstruing a report from a science journal... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #31

and Alexander Fleming was just fukking around with mold. elehhhhna Dec 2013 #36

SMOOCH! IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #58

got your back Ida elehhhhna Dec 2013 #86

She's reacting to all the DUers who call any discussions about pnwmom Dec 2013 #37

And the pro big-alternative medicine ideology is just as big if not an even bigger problem.... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #45

There is an OP on DU right now with someone linking to a surgeon pnwmom Dec 2013 #48

I stand corrected on this, I looked it up and you are right... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #49

I agree. I think this was an oversight on his part, not a conspiracy. pnwmom Dec 2013 #50

I know in much of biology, the female is generally referred to as the default state... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #51

Interesting. It doesn't seem to persist, however, into medical school! n/t pnwmom Dec 2013 #52

"technically those women who are chaste...don't need to take..." El_Johns Dec 2013 #76

+10000000000 Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #22

A very thought provoking post. CrispyQ Dec 2013 #7

K&R Excellent point, and well said. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #8

Ida, if you can find it, a link to your other post might be helpful. nt pnwmom Dec 2013 #17

Here it is --- IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #19

I don't accept anything that the medical journals don't accept. nt politichew Dec 2013 #18

What an eloquent rant... malthaussen Dec 2013 #23

Why, thank you! IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #32

I've never been overly-impressed by possessors of the Sacred Disease... uh, Degree... malthaussen Dec 2013 #35

So do you have any medical studies on zinc from scientific journals? Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #24

You do not consider the Mayo Clinic a valid source? IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #30

Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #38

You actually dismissed the MAYO CLINIC IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #41

I can't even take you seriously. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #43

Advanced technology looks like magic to the uneducated. IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #54

Your arrogance is coming through loud and clear. GeorgeGist Dec 2013 #60

Truth. I'm an uppity woman, filled with the arrogance of the educated. IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #66

And by the way, your reply is kind of proving my point. IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #84

they're not difficult to find renate Dec 2013 #40

K&R.... daleanime Dec 2013 #25

EPICness of the awesomeness. sibelian Dec 2013 #27

Thank you! Even "information" from WOMEN? IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #33

You'd sort of think it would be ESPECIALLY from women, wouldn't you? sibelian Dec 2013 #78

Bless Queen Victoria - prior to her they were INSISTING IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #80

K & R BuddhaGirl Dec 2013 #39

I find it deliciously ironic that the people against woo are now pushing FUD in GD. Rex Dec 2013 #44

What is FUD? IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #72

FUD - fear uncertainty and doubt. Rex Dec 2013 #74

The funny thing about your piglet and infant analogy justiceischeap Dec 2013 #53

Don't tell anyone but I picked that species for this example on purpose. IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #55

That's a righteous rant, doctors assume your brains came out Warpy Dec 2013 #56

How we talk definitely impacts how credible we are deemed. IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #71

That's why I would have followed my pediatrician almost anywhere. pnwmom Dec 2013 #75

Kick. You keep ranting, Ida! Squinch Dec 2013 #57

Thank you, Squinch! IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #73

Fantastic! thucythucy Dec 2013 #59

(blush) IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #67

Ida, sorry to tell you this, but there's a MAJOR reason they don't take nutrition seriously. Th1onein Dec 2013 #61

I believe that there is still the war between the "educated" IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #70

I agree so much with this post laundry_queen Dec 2013 #77

Vitamin D for me is an "only in the morning" thing IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #79

I disagree with you, Ida. Th1onein Dec 2013 #81

I'm glad. The whole thing is really infuriating. IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #85

My mother had to find a female doctor, before she was diagnosed. Rex Dec 2013 #63

Good point. 840high Dec 2013 #65

Thank you! IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #68

Very welcome! Rex Dec 2013 #69

I had a friend who was diagnosed with Stage 4 colon cancer.... Th1onein Dec 2013 #82

Same here, people put their faith in their doctor's diagnosis. Rex Dec 2013 #83

what is "woo"? Iris Dec 2013 #87

As used here on DU it can charitably be described -- IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #88

yes. and, oh dear. is this still DU? Iris Dec 2013 #89

To be fair, there are probably less than twenty or so anti-woo IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #90