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markpkessinger

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16. From your own quote of the catechism . . .
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 09:58 PM
Dec 2013
. . . . This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. . . .


So whether you use the phrase, "instrinsically disordered," which appears in your first quoted paragraph, or the phrase "objectively disordered, which appears in the second, your quote serves to underscore my point.

Oh, and as to the line from the catechism that homosexuality "constitutes for most [homosexuals] a trial," excuse me, but to the extent homosexuality is a "trial" for gay people, it is precisely BECAUSE of the anti-gay bigotry that has been fed, for centuries, by the Church's teaching!

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Good stuff... Ghola_Duncan Dec 2013 #1
Teaching by example is far and away the most powerful way. reformist2 Dec 2013 #2
Francis and his holy war against gay people. Here is what he said in 2010 as he attempted Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #3
It is dishonest to call this a war against individual gay people, it is a war against gay marriage.. Drahthaardogs Dec 2013 #4
+10000 Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #7
The official teaching of the Roman Catholic Church has been, and remains . . . markpkessinger Dec 2013 #13
Quit making shit up. That is NOT the modern Church's view Drahthaardogs Dec 2013 #14
Yes -- it calls for gay people to be treated with "respect, compassion and sensitivity" . . . markpkessinger Dec 2013 #15
No one is whitewashing anything, just pointing out that it is NOT all about YOU Drahthaardogs Dec 2013 #20
That the RCC treats other groups badly . . . markpkessinger Dec 2013 #21
My response was to the poster above, who seems to believe there IS a grand conspiracy Drahthaardogs Dec 2013 #23
Perhaps, but it was me you accused of "making shit up" . . . markpkessinger Dec 2013 #24
Yes, because you do not completely understand what you read. Drahthaardogs Dec 2013 #25
The entire logic of the way "parts match up" . . . markpkessinger Dec 2013 #26
YOU may reject it Drahthaardogs Dec 2013 #27
From your own quote of the catechism . . . markpkessinger Dec 2013 #16
on the pope’s selection as Person of the Year...by the LGBT community Chrom Dec 2013 #5
The Vatican PR team won that award. 1000words Dec 2013 #22
where was this Pope when they selected Nazi Pope Ratfink? NightWatcher Dec 2013 #6
He came in second in the voting Drahthaardogs Dec 2013 #9
Yes, he came in second place. Beacool Dec 2013 #17
Word is . . . Brigid Dec 2013 #10
Nice guy or Nazi, hmmmm? NightWatcher Dec 2013 #11
The Curia at the Vatican wields real power....they always have. Drahthaardogs Dec 2013 #12
Yes, it was almost Scoala. Beacool Dec 2013 #18
LOVE Pope Francis! Chrom Dec 2013 #8
What I like is that he gave them practical gifts, not just a signed pic and a prayer. Beacool Dec 2013 #19
The biggest disappointment with Francis... Drunken Irishman Dec 2013 #28
Pope's PR team is busy this season. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #29
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