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Drahthaardogs

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20. No one is whitewashing anything, just pointing out that it is NOT all about YOU
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 10:34 PM
Dec 2013

My point is a direct rebuttal of another poster who seems to believe that there is an all out WAR ON GAYS full of vehement persecution to such a degree as to require a special group of Vatican Spin Doctors to mitigate the damage done by Bergoglio. That is a bullshit statement, as it your contention that gays are somehow "more" targeted than others in the RCC.

The RCC has plenty of disdain for all sorts of people and gays are just a subsect of that group. The RCC treats divorcees with UTTER contempt, even extending to the children of second marriages. Fuck, the Catechism condems divorcees and those who marry them as adulterers doomed to hell. They are, worse than murders, and no salvation is offered.

Women are persecuted within the RCC going as far as to excommunicate an 11 year old girl, her mother, and her doctor because she had an abortion. The poor child was impregnated by her father with twins at tender age of 10. The RCC still saw fit to excommunicate her.

In fact, if you want to get down in the weeds, about the only act that results in AUTOMATIC EXCOMMUNICATION is an abortion, and NOT gay sexual relations. Even in the event of a life threatening situation for the mother, rape, or incest, they are not permitted. What does that tacitly imply?

So, spare me the self-flagellation. The RCC treats many groups with as much or MORE contempt than gays. There is plenty of it to go around. There is no Anti-Gay Rota at the Vatican holding covert meetings and saying special incantations to cause gays harm. I hate to burst your bubble but you are not treated any differently than a host of other people by the RCC.

Anyway, Francis has stated a few things 1) Women need a stronger role in the Church 2) Divorcees need to be welcomed back into the Church and 3) He should not judge gay people who are in good standing with the Lord. Considering 2.2 billion people answer to the Pope, I will embrace these messages as a powerful voice for more tolerance, even if they are not perfect.

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Good stuff... Ghola_Duncan Dec 2013 #1
Teaching by example is far and away the most powerful way. reformist2 Dec 2013 #2
Francis and his holy war against gay people. Here is what he said in 2010 as he attempted Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #3
It is dishonest to call this a war against individual gay people, it is a war against gay marriage.. Drahthaardogs Dec 2013 #4
+10000 Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #7
The official teaching of the Roman Catholic Church has been, and remains . . . markpkessinger Dec 2013 #13
Quit making shit up. That is NOT the modern Church's view Drahthaardogs Dec 2013 #14
Yes -- it calls for gay people to be treated with "respect, compassion and sensitivity" . . . markpkessinger Dec 2013 #15
No one is whitewashing anything, just pointing out that it is NOT all about YOU Drahthaardogs Dec 2013 #20
That the RCC treats other groups badly . . . markpkessinger Dec 2013 #21
My response was to the poster above, who seems to believe there IS a grand conspiracy Drahthaardogs Dec 2013 #23
Perhaps, but it was me you accused of "making shit up" . . . markpkessinger Dec 2013 #24
Yes, because you do not completely understand what you read. Drahthaardogs Dec 2013 #25
The entire logic of the way "parts match up" . . . markpkessinger Dec 2013 #26
YOU may reject it Drahthaardogs Dec 2013 #27
From your own quote of the catechism . . . markpkessinger Dec 2013 #16
on the pope’s selection as Person of the Year...by the LGBT community Chrom Dec 2013 #5
The Vatican PR team won that award. 1000words Dec 2013 #22
where was this Pope when they selected Nazi Pope Ratfink? NightWatcher Dec 2013 #6
He came in second in the voting Drahthaardogs Dec 2013 #9
Yes, he came in second place. Beacool Dec 2013 #17
Word is . . . Brigid Dec 2013 #10
Nice guy or Nazi, hmmmm? NightWatcher Dec 2013 #11
The Curia at the Vatican wields real power....they always have. Drahthaardogs Dec 2013 #12
Yes, it was almost Scoala. Beacool Dec 2013 #18
LOVE Pope Francis! Chrom Dec 2013 #8
What I like is that he gave them practical gifts, not just a signed pic and a prayer. Beacool Dec 2013 #19
The biggest disappointment with Francis... Drunken Irishman Dec 2013 #28
Pope's PR team is busy this season. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #29
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