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77. I agree so much with this post

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 05:00 AM

Dec 2013

And with all your posts.
As a mother and a woman, I have TOTALLY BTDT. My brother passed out at work and got a full work up, ct scan, blood tests, heart tests, stress tests etc etc. I passed out and I got a 'sometimes it happens, try not to get up too fast'. I've also been "poopoo'ed" about some medical issues that have happened with my children.

Also, I went to the doctor 2 summers ago with fatigue issues...I was told it was 'just stress' but I insisted on some blood tests. Turns out I had extremely low levels of vitamin D, so I was told to take a certain amount a day for 3 months then cut it in half and stay on it. Well, the vitamin affected me severely and I had to lower my dosage. Just taking it caused anxiety, panic attacks, insomnia and severe leg and foot cramps. Taking a potassium and calcium/magnesium supplement helped with the cramps, but I still have to be careful to take it in the morning or I can't sleep. And yes, it has helped quite a bit with my fatigue issues. Unfortunately it didn't help when I caught a lung infection a few months ago that is still irritating my asthmatic lungs. But don't tell me vitamins don't have an effect - vitamin D has a huge effect on me. And if I had been taking a multivitamin regularly, I probably wouldn't have has such a deficiency. That's what gets me about the recommendations.

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More Thoughts on Woo - and How Doctors Don't Take Women Seriously [View all] IdaBriggs Dec 2013 OP

k&r nt bananas Dec 2013 #1

Excellent rant! livetohike Dec 2013 #2

I could write volumes on the effect of nutrition on the health Holly_Hobby Dec 2013 #3

you sound like an awesome mom! Chrom Dec 2013 #4

Wow. I think you're really onto something here. pnwmom Dec 2013 #5

That's silly, for example, if vets were to use cats as an example, humans would be eating a diet... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #9

Vets, more than many doctors, stress the importance of nutrition. pnwmom Dec 2013 #10

Every time I go to a doctor, they always emphasize the importance of a balanced diet. Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #12

Me too. IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #21

Nothing you said changes the fact that many multivitamins and other supplements... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #6

Preemies don't eat a balanced diet. They consume breast milk or formula pnwmom Dec 2013 #11

Well some, others have to be administered in other ways, such as Vitamin K... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #13

What did she say that is anti-science? pnwmom Dec 2013 #14

First off, she mentions "woo" as if what was the subject of her rant somehow goes against... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #15

If you had read her initial post you wouldn't be so confused. n/t pnwmom Dec 2013 #16

OK so she's even more anti-science than I thought, not to mention not able to understand... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #20

Yes, because begging for a rigorous controlled study IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #26

The issue the Annuals of Internal Medicine was talking about was for healthy adults... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #29

You're making a generalization that is false. pnwmom Dec 2013 #34

Yet. IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #42

What are you talking about? Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #47

I apologize if my analogy was not clear. IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #64

Who mentioned right or wrong here? Those are loaded words, we are talking about... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #46

And I suppose those who fund these peer-reviewed studies fund a lot of them on the Th1onein Dec 2013 #62

the discussion of trace minerals and human physiology is henceforth elehhhhna Dec 2013 #28

No, we are talking about someone misconstruing a report from a science journal... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #31

and Alexander Fleming was just fukking around with mold. elehhhhna Dec 2013 #36

SMOOCH! IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #58

got your back Ida elehhhhna Dec 2013 #86

She's reacting to all the DUers who call any discussions about pnwmom Dec 2013 #37

And the pro big-alternative medicine ideology is just as big if not an even bigger problem.... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #45

There is an OP on DU right now with someone linking to a surgeon pnwmom Dec 2013 #48

I stand corrected on this, I looked it up and you are right... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #49

I agree. I think this was an oversight on his part, not a conspiracy. pnwmom Dec 2013 #50

I know in much of biology, the female is generally referred to as the default state... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #51

Interesting. It doesn't seem to persist, however, into medical school! n/t pnwmom Dec 2013 #52

"technically those women who are chaste...don't need to take..." El_Johns Dec 2013 #76

+10000000000 Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #22

A very thought provoking post. CrispyQ Dec 2013 #7

K&R Excellent point, and well said. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #8

Ida, if you can find it, a link to your other post might be helpful. nt pnwmom Dec 2013 #17

Here it is --- IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #19

I don't accept anything that the medical journals don't accept. nt politichew Dec 2013 #18

What an eloquent rant... malthaussen Dec 2013 #23

Why, thank you! IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #32

I've never been overly-impressed by possessors of the Sacred Disease... uh, Degree... malthaussen Dec 2013 #35

So do you have any medical studies on zinc from scientific journals? Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #24

You do not consider the Mayo Clinic a valid source? IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #30

Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #38

You actually dismissed the MAYO CLINIC IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #41

I can't even take you seriously. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #43

Advanced technology looks like magic to the uneducated. IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #54

Your arrogance is coming through loud and clear. GeorgeGist Dec 2013 #60

Truth. I'm an uppity woman, filled with the arrogance of the educated. IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #66

And by the way, your reply is kind of proving my point. IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #84

they're not difficult to find renate Dec 2013 #40

K&R.... daleanime Dec 2013 #25

EPICness of the awesomeness. sibelian Dec 2013 #27

Thank you! Even "information" from WOMEN? IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #33

You'd sort of think it would be ESPECIALLY from women, wouldn't you? sibelian Dec 2013 #78

Bless Queen Victoria - prior to her they were INSISTING IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #80

K & R BuddhaGirl Dec 2013 #39

I find it deliciously ironic that the people against woo are now pushing FUD in GD. Rex Dec 2013 #44

What is FUD? IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #72

FUD - fear uncertainty and doubt. Rex Dec 2013 #74

The funny thing about your piglet and infant analogy justiceischeap Dec 2013 #53

Don't tell anyone but I picked that species for this example on purpose. IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #55

That's a righteous rant, doctors assume your brains came out Warpy Dec 2013 #56

How we talk definitely impacts how credible we are deemed. IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #71

That's why I would have followed my pediatrician almost anywhere. pnwmom Dec 2013 #75

Kick. You keep ranting, Ida! Squinch Dec 2013 #57

Thank you, Squinch! IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #73

Fantastic! thucythucy Dec 2013 #59

(blush) IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #67

Ida, sorry to tell you this, but there's a MAJOR reason they don't take nutrition seriously. Th1onein Dec 2013 #61

I believe that there is still the war between the "educated" IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #70

I agree so much with this post laundry_queen Dec 2013 #77

Vitamin D for me is an "only in the morning" thing IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #79

I disagree with you, Ida. Th1onein Dec 2013 #81

I'm glad. The whole thing is really infuriating. IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #85

My mother had to find a female doctor, before she was diagnosed. Rex Dec 2013 #63

Good point. 840high Dec 2013 #65

Thank you! IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #68

Very welcome! Rex Dec 2013 #69

I had a friend who was diagnosed with Stage 4 colon cancer.... Th1onein Dec 2013 #82

Same here, people put their faith in their doctor's diagnosis. Rex Dec 2013 #83

what is "woo"? Iris Dec 2013 #87

As used here on DU it can charitably be described -- IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #88

yes. and, oh dear. is this still DU? Iris Dec 2013 #89

To be fair, there are probably less than twenty or so anti-woo IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #90