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joshcryer

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116. Remember, SecureIDs root keys were leaked.

Sun Dec 22, 2013, 03:41 PM

Dec 2013

We're talking about networked systems that allowed 30,000 customers to be affected and L3 and Lockheed Martin were compromised. I think that's when RSA lacked trustworthiness. Not when they signed up with the NSA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SecurID#March_2011_system_compromise

At that moment RSA (the company) / EMC should've lost all contracts with the government. For the same reason that if we were serious here if what Booz Allen contends Snowden did then Booz Allen should be summarily fired from working for the government. Forever. Every person who worked with Booz Allen completely ostracized.

(Note: I am not saying what Snowden did was wrong, I am saying that if he pulled off what he did, which I am not certain he did, then that is a huge, major security breach and the corporations who lobbied to get the power to take taxpayer funding and turn the country into a surveillance state should be punished.)

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RSA is not compromised, FIPS 140-2 is, if Dual EC_DRBG is enabled. joshcryer Dec 2013 #103

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Remember, SecureIDs root keys were leaked. joshcryer Dec 2013 #116

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