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Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
66. No, I am taking issue with the last line in that quote.
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 10:50 AM
Dec 2013
" At worst, they may be harmful.



There really is no evidence at all that they may be harmful. The idea that one multivitamin a day can be dangerous is simply ridiculous to me. It also claims that these are costly. If people can't afford them then they won't buy them The truth is they are very inexpensive. Here is a link that sells multivitamins for less than $0.17 each.

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/search/controller?N=200789250&type=category



So long as $0.17 cents a day is affordable to someone, there is no reason not to take a multivitamin a day.


I never claimed that all people benefit from taking vitamins. I will never make that claim. It is simply that the risk / benefit ratio is all in favor of benefit with nothing on the risk side.


The idea that you introduced me to these terms is pure insanity. I have been following this subject for decades. The hubris in your claim is nearly beyond belief. You introduced me to nothing other than the continuation of the same BS that has been out there for a very long time.


I don't doubt that both vitamin companies and drug companies use "propaganda". The thing is that the drug companies are making false claims that something as simple as a multivitamin can be harmful. There is no evidence of that at all. On the other hand, there are medical conditions which are caused by not having enough of a vitamin in your diet. These really do exist while the dangers of a multivitamin don't.


I am simply asking for you to present evidence to substantiate the claim in the OP. You can't. Maybe you should delete the OP since you have made a claim which can't be substantiated. You may be discouraging someone who needs a supplement from doing so.


I know that my personal experience is nothing more than one example but...

As I stated in an earlier post, I take vitamins during the winter months and don't do so the rest of the year. I believe that it does help fight off colds and other illnesses. I have had blood tests twice in the last four months. All my organ functions are fine. I have no sign of any damage from taking vitamins. The only thing I do have is a vitamin D deficiency. My doctor has me taking 2000 mg. a day right now and I will have another blood test in a couple of months to see if it helped.

Maybe you should start looking into the risks of not taking vitamins. That is where the risk lies.









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Yes, people in developing countries with no access to a well rounded diet Rex Dec 2013 #1
People in developing countries can afford supplements? intaglio Dec 2013 #2
Yeah right, ignore the thousands of groups out there that help Rex Dec 2013 #3
That help by providing food not fantasies to people whose normal diet has been disrupted intaglio Dec 2013 #16
It's almost as if you didn't bother to read the OP. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #6
Straw man! longship Dec 2013 #8
The body can only absorb so much Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #4
Just curious who paid for this study? Nt newfie11 Dec 2013 #5
It's actually 3 studies... SidDithers Dec 2013 #7
Wait... Wut? MerryBlooms Dec 2013 #9
There are 3 different studies... SidDithers Dec 2013 #10
Ah, got it, my bad. MerryBlooms Dec 2013 #13
Evidence-based science isn't allowed in these forums! Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #11
says who? Liberal_in_LA Dec 2013 #12
...that was sarcasm. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #15
Great thread in V&MM right now promoting the hell out of Dr. Oz... SidDithers Dec 2013 #18
Ohhhhhh, really? Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #22
I take Vitamin D as prescribed by my doctor cause it was low in my last blood test thing Arcanetrance Dec 2013 #14
Probably, certain infections or metabolic problems can decrease the production of vitamin D intaglio Dec 2013 #17
That is not true if you are dark skinned and/or live in northern, cloudy latitudes. n/t pnwmom Dec 2013 #19
Ok make it 30 minutes in the sunlight intaglio Dec 2013 #33
A tanning booth for black people instead of a supplement? pnwmom Dec 2013 #40
Well, every human makes vitamin D in sunlight, whatever their skin colour intaglio Dec 2013 #42
It is ludicrous to suggest that black people should go to tanning booths pnwmom Dec 2013 #43
It is ridiculous to suggest that supplements are needed intaglio Dec 2013 #44
No medical authorities recommend that black people "top up" their pnwmom Dec 2013 #46
The National Cancer institute would like everybody to go round in Burqas intaglio Dec 2013 #51
I can't believe you're still pushing tanning booths for black people. pnwmom Dec 2013 #52
I am not saying you do it for a tan intaglio Dec 2013 #56
I can't easily get 4,000 units a day without eating a lot of calories pnwmom Dec 2013 #57
See my response to your other post intaglio Dec 2013 #63
That's true, for sure! KitSileya Dec 2013 #45
There are a number of causes of vitamin D deficiency REP Dec 2013 #20
Also dietary insufficiency. I had a job a few years ago DebJ Dec 2013 #21
And many people are supposed to be using sun screens, pnwmom Dec 2013 #48
true Sgent Dec 2013 #38
As I said originally you need to know why your doctor is prescribing intaglio Dec 2013 #39
Placebos don't make blood levels of vitamin D rise. n/t pnwmom Dec 2013 #49
How do you know they have risen? Have you had blood assays done? intaglio Dec 2013 #50
My doctor checks them at least annually. That's why she put me on pnwmom Dec 2013 #53
Hopeless intaglio Dec 2013 #54
My doctors have me taking 4,000 units of Vitamin D. pnwmom Dec 2013 #55
Please read what I have written here - it might be very important to you intaglio Dec 2013 #61
I'm at 4,000, which is well under 50,000 and even 10,000. pnwmom Dec 2013 #64
You might find this of interest intaglio Dec 2013 #62
There is this thing...The Goldilock's Principle... HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #23
Show me evidence that they can be harmful. Motown_Johnny Dec 2013 #24
Here's a place to start... HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #25
Ahh yes, wikipedia. Because big phama would never update anything there. Motown_Johnny Dec 2013 #26
No, because it's a place to learn some key words HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #27
did you read my post? Motown_Johnny Dec 2013 #28
Yes, are you open minded enough to take some of the terms you learned HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #29
I can't verify that "60,000 annual vitamin poisoning claim" Motown_Johnny Dec 2013 #32
It seems you're trying to erect a strawman rather than address the issue of the published comment HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #34
No, I am taking issue with the last line in that quote. Motown_Johnny Dec 2013 #66
Big Pharma does NOT want you to stop taking supplements etherealtruth Dec 2013 #35
I think the article argued that it's mostly just a waste of money. Bradical79 Dec 2013 #60
That is not what the last line in the quote in the OP says. Motown_Johnny Dec 2013 #65
I'm agnostic on the OP topic at the moment, personally, but if food tips are what you're looking for proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #30
RECOMMENDED. proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #31
What is your view of taking vitamins for age-related macular degeneration? FarCenter Dec 2013 #36
As long as they're inexpensive, its no bother at all to take a multi-vitamin bhikkhu Dec 2013 #37
Routine, maybe. What about non-routine, as in biomedical autism therapy under medical supervision? proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #41
*facepalm* LeftyMom Dec 2013 #47
non-routine use is addressed in the article. Bradical79 Dec 2013 #58
So, why dont they offer benefits? Bradical79 Dec 2013 #59
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