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randome

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64. My NSA masters pay me a buttload of money, that's why!!!

Mon Dec 23, 2013, 01:33 PM

Dec 2013

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[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

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Snowden�s heroic work: Media must match his courage: �Truth is coming, and it cannot be stopped.� [View all] kpete Dec 2013 OP

25% of reporters self censor out of fear of the govt!!! riderinthestorm Dec 2013 #1

and the rest are too busy doing fluff pieces on bands (NPR) and ... planetc Dec 2013 #38

"But, but, but we don't do truth or insight. We do spin and spew." - Corporate Media Borg, Inc. (R) Berlum Dec 2013 #2

I wonder what his duped fiance thinks about such malleable matters as 'truth'. randome Dec 2013 #3

LOL Scuba Dec 2013 #4

Show your care about her with your very own op. L0oniX Dec 2013 #5

Well...she has you. SaveOurDemocracy Dec 2013 #7

And his garage boxes! riderinthestorm Dec 2013 #8

Lol, yes, no one cares about the Whistle Blowers fiance. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #9

And, I bet you also say Clinton's BJ is of no concern to the public. Fawke Em Dec 2013 #11

Simply pointing out the fact that Snowden only cares about 'truth' when he thinks it benefits him. randome Dec 2013 #16

How did Snowden revealing this information benefit him? Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #42

He wanted to be a hero, I think. randome Dec 2013 #45

If Snowden wanted to be a hero, then he must have thought his actions in revealing this information Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #51

No one is tracking your every electronic move. At least so far as we know. randome Dec 2013 #58

That's not what this former top NSA Official and creator of the system says. Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #65

I know. And if he can point to any evidence this is happening, let's see some jail time... randome Dec 2013 #67

Would Binney have come out with this without all the energy being put in to it? Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #84

He didn't have to leave blueinannarbor Dec 2013 #59

Once Snowden decided to reveal this information, he didn't have any choice but to leave and Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #66

I doubt Snowden decided to risk execution for a book or movie deal. n/t Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #86

"...so these repetitive threads trying to gin up outrage are getting tiresome." ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2013 #54

My NSA masters pay me a buttload of money, that's why!!! randome Dec 2013 #64

If you were debating that would be one thing. Instead you repeat the exact same talking points riderinthestorm Dec 2013 #74

All you are pointing out.. sendero Dec 2013 #100

Thank you NSA Spin-Meister hueymahl Dec 2013 #19

Misdirection - Such A Fine Example Of Logical Fallacy In Play cantbeserious Dec 2013 #25

Won't somebody think of the children^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H fiance. Pholus Dec 2013 #28

Oh won't someone please think of the mindwalker_i Dec 2013 #30

Snowden is the diversion. So is this OP, which is simply to praise him instead of discuss the issues randome Dec 2013 #34

Yes, there are people who lead the discussions in the same direction mindwalker_i Dec 2013 #69

I have no problem at all with stopping the collection of metadata. I've said that many times. randome Dec 2013 #70

Your obvious attempt at distraction aside, where did you come up with fiance? DesMoinesDem Dec 2013 #36

I guess they weren't officially engaged so I'll take that back. randome Dec 2013 #47

Just as I thought. DesMoinesDem Dec 2013 #50

It wasn't a lie, it was an error. You corrected me. randome Dec 2013 #52

Ok, how about a more direct approach: Why are you engaging in misdirection and distraction? n/t ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2013 #55

The article and OP is about Snowden's 'courage'. I disagree that he's courageous, that's all. randome Dec 2013 #60

Dude... that is lower than pathetic. bvar22 Dec 2013 #81

you go for the argumentum ad hominem every damn time. yodermon Dec 2013 #85

I Wonder How The Duped Boxes In The Garage Feel... WillyT Dec 2013 #93

That's the best you can do? marmar Dec 2013 #103

Snowdon is a traitor demoncrat Dec 2013 #6

So you approve of what the NSA is doing and the fact that our government is lying to us to try to RC Dec 2013 #10

THIS. Fawke Em Dec 2013 #12

Essential liberty that comes from the government having treestar Dec 2013 #31

The "its ONLY the Meta-Data" has been debunked many times. bvar22 Dec 2013 #83

That doesn't prove it is anything other than metadata treestar Dec 2013 #87

Care to elaborate as to why? mindwalker_i Dec 2013 #13

But they aren't spying on the communications of all Americans treestar Dec 2013 #33

"It's all just fine and dandy" mindwalker_i Dec 2013 #71

We are amused. n/t Wilms Dec 2013 #72

And the influx continues... woo me with science Dec 2013 #14

Snowden DID expose national secrets. SoapBox Dec 2013 #15

With The Current War On Whistleblowers - Please Enlighten Us On How This Would Work cantbeserious Dec 2013 #22

Big Brother Needs A Fact Check gussmith Dec 2013 #26

Whistle Blowers Need A Forum gussmith Dec 2013 #29

The traitors are those who have subverted our democratic, representative government woo me with science Dec 2013 #23

So Does That Make You A Traitor For Supporting The Desecration Of The 4th Amendment cantbeserious Dec 2013 #24

LOL, Keith is that you! Get lost 3 post troll! Nt Logical Dec 2013 #43

MIRT, look at this posters name! Come on! 3 posts? nt Logical Dec 2013 #46

Hit and run post? "DEMONcrat"? Really? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!1!11 n/t ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2013 #57

"demoncrat"? three posts since 2010? n/t BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2013 #62

K&R Courage is contagious. woo me with science Dec 2013 #17

Just do a massive data dump on mulitple mirrored sites ad be done with it benld74 Dec 2013 #18

Disagree, I think the timing has been masterful. Pholus Dec 2013 #37

Many Cannot Handle The Truth - Including Some Here cantbeserious Dec 2013 #20

Yeah, those ferriners are just not very patriotic . . FairWinds Dec 2013 #21

Running away & hiding in totalitarian countries, while sniping at the US govt is not "heroic". baldguy Dec 2013 #27

+1 treestar Dec 2013 #32

"Former NSA Senior Official. "slippery slope toward a totalitarian state"" polichick Dec 2013 #40

Lol, they have you fooled! Gullible much? nt Logical Dec 2013 #49

Neither was sniping at the redcoats from behind trees. Pholus Dec 2013 #63

There you go again, painting Obama as the Enemy. baldguy Dec 2013 #88

You seem to have problems with target identification... Pholus Dec 2013 #92

You're defending a libertarian Paulite, using the same imagery & talking points as the RW Teabaggers baldguy Dec 2013 #94

Namecalling. Guess you ran out of cogent things to say? Pholus Dec 2013 #97

Who is a Bush/Cheney fan? baldguy Dec 2013 #98

The person defending NSA Dragnet Spying, born from one of the ten PNAC goals. Pholus Dec 2013 #99

And yet we didn't hear a peep out of the RW when these programs were implimented baldguy Dec 2013 #101

You really need to be handheld here, don't you. Pholus Dec 2013 #102

Didn't the government start spying on people back in Hoover's day? fadedrose Dec 2013 #35

Snowden didn't reveal anything new. See this EFF timeline and note they left out a lot stevenleser Dec 2013 #56

That timeline only demonstrates even more profoundly how dramatically Snowden has impacted our aware riderinthestorm Dec 2013 #75

All you have to do to see I am right is to do your own search of the pre-6 month period. stevenleser Dec 2013 #76

They "decided" not to include info? Really? That makes this timeline dubious at best riderinthestorm Dec 2013 #82

"Snowden has had no impact and he will have no impact"? progressoid Dec 2013 #90

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #39

News is what somebody somewhere wants to suppress; all the rest is advertising. Lord Northcliffe K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #41

Truth will win, but the fight is not an easy one. PowerToThePeople Dec 2013 #44

Great! Start with 9/11... KansDem Dec 2013 #48

and the truth is... this is much ado about nothing. DCBob Dec 2013 #53

Yep, a blip in what will be 50 plus years of continuous discussion on limits of NSA surveillance stevenleser Dec 2013 #61

Well, the regime thinks it "something" enough to make CYA statements about it. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #73

Well, when there are lunatics are running around screaming with hair on fire.. DCBob Dec 2013 #77

Lunatics like the ACLU, Jimmy Carter, Bernie Sanders, Daniel Ellsberg? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #80

They are not the lunatics.. DCBob Dec 2013 #91

Well, who are the lunatics? The leaders of the countries we spy on? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #95

K&R. (nt) Kurovski Dec 2013 #68

Snowden is NOT a journalist. He's a leaker. n/t pnwmom Dec 2013 #78

Are the people and papers who published the "leaks" jouranalists? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #96

If half America is in poverty then polynomial Dec 2013 #79

Snowden�s heroic work: ucrdem Dec 2013 #89

The anti-Snowden responses to this OP are comedy gold...... marmar Dec 2013 #104

Snowden has done a lot of damage I know many see what he is doing as something good but Tippy Dec 2013 #105