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117. No system is perfect

Reply to southernyankeebelle (Reply #113)

Tue Mar 13, 2012, 11:56 PM

Mar 2012

and the military healthcare system is huge, so your personal experiences, while important and illuminating, don't tell the entire story. Also, the MHS has changed a lot since even the late '90s. I've heard many of the horror stories, and while some were probably exaggerated, I'm sure many of them were true. However, I think the larger I point I was trying to make to my friend is that if you want on-demand health care when it is perfectly convenient for your schedule, you have to pay for it. She has chosen not to, and therefore she can't have everything she wants. I think your point about quality of care is important, but I think the military health system is vastly different than it was even 10 years ago.

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Alright, I kind of went at it w/ a conservative today. [View all] Narkos Mar 2012 OP

too far???? zipplewrath Mar 2012 #1

Thanks....still a little nervous though! n/t Narkos Mar 2012 #4

BS...Medicare works CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #29

Nope. It is good and accurate. tabatha Mar 2012 #2

+1 lsewpershad Mar 2012 #49

I'd say you did it just right...not too far at all. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2012 #3

Thank you Peggy. n/t Narkos Mar 2012 #5

... Lost-in-FL Mar 2012 #98

Too far? No. It's f'ing awesome. n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2012 #6

LOL! Thank you! n/t Narkos Mar 2012 #7

Nice way to let them know tinymontgomery Mar 2012 #8

I know that they are talking about raising Tricare fees Narkos Mar 2012 #35

Brava! pinboy3niner Mar 2012 #9

Thank you sir! Narkos Mar 2012 #34

sounded perfect. warrior1 Mar 2012 #10

I have private insurance coverage and couldn't book an eye examine Aerows Mar 2012 #11

thank you!!! newspeak Mar 2012 #148

I told her that live in the private health care arena Narkos Mar 2012 #153

NO! You did NOT take it too far! calimary Mar 2012 #12

Thanks! You made me giggle! N/t Narkos Mar 2012 #18

Spot on! <eom> catrose Mar 2012 #13

Depends on what happens when "it goes in the one ear..." immoderate Mar 2012 #14

Excellent and not too far at all, imo. cbayer Mar 2012 #15

Not far enough IMO mazzarro Mar 2012 #16

Yeah, she private messaged me Narkos Mar 2012 #20

Government take over lolololol all american girl Mar 2012 #25

Yeah, she doesn't realize Narkos Mar 2012 #27

What is hilarious about that is when it comes to the military, does she expect any other than the treestar Mar 2012 #46

"Governmant take over" that made me laugh all american girl Mar 2012 #33

That's like saying "I had to WAIT while they cooked my FREE LUNCH". CJCRANE Mar 2012 #36

Hahaha! I wish I could go back in time Narkos Mar 2012 #51

Is she a military dependent? The government "took over" when her LuckyLib Mar 2012 #50

Yeah, she's a dependent who has actually used WIC before when they Narkos Mar 2012 #87

My brother needing an eye exam is with Kaiser and he got an appt for a misdiagnosis. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2012 #54

with her pre-existing condition, SemperEadem Mar 2012 #99

I don't think she thinks of herself as a mooch Narkos Mar 2012 #100

for real SemperEadem Mar 2012 #159

We have private insurance onlyadream Mar 2012 #115

I'll translate Skittles Mar 2012 #131

So rrHeretic Mar 2012 #135

Try using Anthem BC/BS for an eye exam druidqueen Mar 2012 #141

I don't know how, or if, you responded to that whathehell Mar 2012 #143

Good point. Didn't want to overload her too much data. n/t Narkos Mar 2012 #152

I also had some issues from recalled contact lenses Aerows Mar 2012 #17

My Thanks Xyzse Mar 2012 #19

Did she say you take politics to seriously? B Calm Mar 2012 #21

No. No. No. Not just no, but HELL no, you didn't take things too far. Zalatix Mar 2012 #22

Thanks! I'm starting to feel better Narkos Mar 2012 #24

Thak you....that was awesome all american girl Mar 2012 #23

I agree that is is getting better Narkos Mar 2012 #26

i don't think you did. barbtries Mar 2012 #28

She said she wasn't trying to offend anyone Narkos Mar 2012 #30

the non apology apology. typical. ejpoeta Mar 2012 #47

Outstanding!!!!! Dan Mar 2012 #31

Yeah you took it too far surfdog Mar 2012 #32

Is "in your face" confrontation the only way to go then? GoneOffShore Mar 2012 #63

It strikes me that this is exactly what the OP describes - crim son Mar 2012 #78

I had no problem with the OP and her response. GoneOffShore Mar 2012 #81

Not far enought. n/t The Doctor. Mar 2012 #37

Too far? You were nothing but respectful when you could have babylonsister Mar 2012 #38

Well done. JoePhilly Mar 2012 #39

I don't have government health care & I still have to wait xchrom Mar 2012 #40

I know, there is this false notion that private means Narkos Mar 2012 #88

It's just so dumb - let's say I go see the DR. & I have some issue xchrom Mar 2012 #96

No, you calmly made a very good point treestar Mar 2012 #41

you did very well. onethatcares Mar 2012 #42

Thank you! Narkos Mar 2012 #45

No you did not go too far. You stuck to the facts in a non-aggressive manner. avebury Mar 2012 #43

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Seems cogent and to the point gratuitous Mar 2012 #48

Excellent! GoneOffShore Mar 2012 #56

true dat renate Mar 2012 #67

Does a "waiver" mean you opt out? "If that doesn't work for me I am to call a different . . . " SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2012 #52

If she can't be seen within a reasonable time frame Narkos Mar 2012 #53

So it's still paid for by the govt. I wonder if she's ever dealt with private insurance.... SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2012 #109

Not far enough. But you did use some pretty big words and advance some fairly abstract ideas. geckosfeet Mar 2012 #55

Yeah, I don't think she will ever understand, but Narkos Mar 2012 #57

Routine vision exams have ALWAYS been low priority pinboy3niner Mar 2012 #74

Excellent, Narkos! I think you laid out the facts gateley Mar 2012 #58

It's funny, I haven't heard a peep from that post Narkos Mar 2012 #89

don't worry about it Narkos Skittles Mar 2012 #132

Thank you. I hope you're right. n/t Narkos Mar 2012 #151

You did just fine. GoneOffShore Mar 2012 #59

Perfect. wakemewhenitsover Mar 2012 #60

Nicely done and with admirable restraint. yellerpup Mar 2012 #61

Well done! Chorophyll Mar 2012 #62

Brava! I use military healthcare and it has literally saved my life more than once. LiberalLoner Mar 2012 #64

Thank you. I appreciate it. N/t Narkos Mar 2012 #66

Not too far... ut oh Mar 2012 #65

Sounded perfect to me. livingonearth Mar 2012 #68

Good and accurate. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #69

Good response! Don't emergency cases take priority over elective exams? Gold Metal Flake Mar 2012 #70

Of course...any emergency gets seen immediately n/t Narkos Mar 2012 #71

Your the hammer that hit the nail square on the head...... Historic NY Mar 2012 #72

I think it's perfect footinmouth Mar 2012 #73

A very measured The Wizard Mar 2012 #75

I get my health care through work abelenkpe Mar 2012 #76

Firm but Fair GeorgeGist Mar 2012 #77

Too Far? Goodness no! Dyedinthewoolliberal Mar 2012 #79

LOL! Well, I really love what I do Narkos Mar 2012 #92

You were too frigging polite. MADem Mar 2012 #80

Hooah! Thank you sir! n/t Narkos Mar 2012 #91

Bravo! GopperStopper2680 Mar 2012 #82

You responded properly. beemer27 Mar 2012 #83

Agreed...nothing is free, however Narkos Mar 2012 #90

Ya done good denbot Mar 2012 #84

It's scary to wait a month for a routine eye exam? mysuzuki2 Mar 2012 #85

I know! Private sector health care is FAR from Narkos Mar 2012 #93

it would be great if some people posted to her BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2012 #140

Thank you. I'm sure I'll run into them Narkos Mar 2012 #154

Beautiful. You never 'hit below the belt' duhneece Mar 2012 #86

Thank you very much! n/t Narkos Mar 2012 #94

On a taking it too far scale of 1-100 DFW Mar 2012 #95

LOL! Narkos Mar 2012 #97

So I guess she would prefer not having any health care or having to pay Cleita Mar 2012 #101

If she is still talking to you WCIL Mar 2012 #102

That is a perfect anecdote to relay to her Narkos Mar 2012 #104

I hope it gets through to her WCIL Mar 2012 #108

One word to describe it........perfect. yourout Mar 2012 #103

you were really nice, rational, and informative noiretextatique Mar 2012 #105

I just scheduled an eye exam for my two kids today. emmadoggy Mar 2012 #106

You can't even see far from there, too far is a few states over. TheKentuckian Mar 2012 #107

Is Kentucky too far? Narkos Mar 2012 #127

I think your response was well-formulated Jackpine Radical Mar 2012 #110

Thank you sir. N/t Narkos Mar 2012 #121

No. You did exactly what should be done. bluestate10 Mar 2012 #111

I can't stop laughing! Narkos Mar 2012 #122

I will trade her Pakid Mar 2012 #112

Haha! I'll let her know ;-) Narkos Mar 2012 #126

Well you make some good points. But I will tell you I have seen both sides of this issue. There southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #113

No system is perfect Narkos Mar 2012 #117

I can compare it to the times my dad was in the military in the 50s. I remember momma taking us to southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #136

BRAVO! Aristus Mar 2012 #114

Thanks! Narkos Mar 2012 #118

20 minutes on the phone. What a lightweight. Kalidurga Mar 2012 #116

Agreed...and I followed up w an email and told her that n/t Narkos Mar 2012 #125

beautifully written Tumbulu Mar 2012 #119

Thank you Narkos Mar 2012 #124

some people just like to complain LittleGirl Mar 2012 #120

I appreciate that Narkos Mar 2012 #123

As a former conservative, I think you did amazing. Kennah Mar 2012 #128

I agree, even if she even reconsiders Narkos Mar 2012 #155

No. Pitch perfect. grahamhgreen Mar 2012 #129

you did great, and in a VERY civil fashion Skittles Mar 2012 #130

Not at all davidthegnome Mar 2012 #133

that was an excellent response ibegurpard Mar 2012 #134

You were too kind... MrMickeysMom Mar 2012 #137

If telling it like it is is taking it too far, why yes. You took it too far lunatica Mar 2012 #138

It's too bad she didn't get an apointment to take care of her other problem... beac Mar 2012 #139

That was a homerun. Good job. matmar Mar 2012 #142

Perfect! dash_bannon Mar 2012 #144

Are you kidding me Glaisne Mar 2012 #145

Thank you! Narkos Mar 2012 #156

IMPORTANT!!!!! FROM A DISABLED VET!!! PLEASE READ!!!!! KBlagburn Mar 2012 #146

True! That's the thing... Narkos Mar 2012 #158

This is awesome 47of74 Mar 2012 #147

Absolutely Not lefty16 Mar 2012 #149

I have private insurance--Blue Cross Blue Shield--and I need relatively important surgery Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2012 #150

Another anecdote that I will share if I get a chance! Narkos Mar 2012 #157