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loudsue

(14,087 posts)
39. Science says that this barbaric treatment is right for this specific girl?
Tue Dec 24, 2013, 12:26 AM
Dec 2013

One size fits all? Sorry. That just doesn't fly.

But...Big Pharma... MineralMan Dec 2013 #1
Science allows us to hear fragments of the language of God derby378 Dec 2013 #2
+1 freshwest Dec 2013 #33
It is so coarse of you to judge her parents. Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #3
No. Fuck the parents... SidDithers Dec 2013 #5
It is not my decision or yours to make. Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #9
Parents do not have a right to kill their children. kcr Dec 2013 #10
Withdrawing treatment is not killing your child. Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #13
Yes it is. kcr Dec 2013 #14
You are entitled to your opinion. Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #16
As opposed to yours? kcr Dec 2013 #18
LOL, do you understand percentages? I can explain it if you want! nt Logical Dec 2013 #95
Oh good, I would so appreciate that. Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #103
Your post tilte is a complete and utter falsehood intaglio Dec 2013 #107
I totally agree with your sentiments Big Blue Marble. loudsue Dec 2013 #30
You are so correct that the issue is that Sarah wanted to stop the treatment. Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #42
Wow, so 11 is the age you let tem decide? WTF? nt Logical Dec 2013 #96
It would depend on the situation and the maturity of the child. N/T Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #98
Really? In pain? Agony! Let them decide? Wow, you make me depressed! nt Logical Dec 2013 #100
If you are depressed, you did it to yourself. N/T Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #102
I am with you on this one Tumbulu Dec 2013 #79
I suspect you would not say that over a broken bone or a shot... Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #109
How do you know she wasn't sick enough to be in the 15%? pnwmom Dec 2013 #4
11 is old enough to make her own informed medical decisions?... SidDithers Dec 2013 #6
Yes. And I'd say that if she needed an abortion, too. She is old enough pnwmom Dec 2013 #7
I totally agree pnwmom. Thank you for speaking up. loudsue Dec 2013 #35
Not legally, it isn't. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2013 #66
I would listen to the doctors kcr Dec 2013 #8
At this time, there is no evidence, only speculation on the part of the author Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #11
Not speculation. It's a treatable cancer. kcr Dec 2013 #12
Read the article. Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #15
You think the cancer is going to go away on its own? n/t kcr Dec 2013 #17
I have no idea and neither does the author as to how this child is doing. Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #19
These diseases aren't mysterious. Their outcomes are generally well known. kcr Dec 2013 #20
Why does the author claim the child has come home to die Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #21
Why? Because her parents withdrew her treatment kcr Dec 2013 #22
Clues? Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #25
No longer threatening them because it was too late. kcr Dec 2013 #28
Why did the news stories earlier this month say she was in remission Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #29
What news stories? kcr Dec 2013 #31
You have Google, don't you? N/T Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #32
Yes, I do. And I happened to google it. kcr Dec 2013 #34
What difference does it make whether you are convinced or not? Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #44
No. I believe that parents don't have the right to kill their children kcr Dec 2013 #47
Oh! So now the courts and the medical establishment are so fucking BENEVOLENT? loudsue Dec 2013 #36
What?? Are we supposed to go back to the days where we drilled holes in skulls????? kcr Dec 2013 #38
Sounds to me like the little girl is the one that convinced the parents to let her quit treatment. loudsue Dec 2013 #46
That's too bad for the little girl. It's a shame her parents abdicated their responsibility. kcr Dec 2013 #52
No matter how much you rant and rave, this situation is Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #48
It absolutely is as cut and dried. kcr Dec 2013 #55
As I said you are entitled to that opinion. Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #61
Adults can make that decision. kcr Dec 2013 #63
At what age would you establish personhood? Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #82
No, it doesn't. The court did indeed rule in the hospitals favor. They fled. kcr Dec 2013 #86
You avoided the question. Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #88
It has everything to do with that. kcr Dec 2013 #90
So you would force a 17 year old to have a treatment he or she would not want? Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #91
Why would you suspect that? kcr Dec 2013 #92
I suspect that because you said "at least 18." Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #93
Sometimes the legal age is 21 kcr Dec 2013 #94
We are in total agreement that parents are responsible for their children's welfare. Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #97
Yes, it does. kcr Dec 2013 #99
You are generalizing this situation. Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #101
I don't know why the cops can't grab the kid and put her in treatment. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #24
It's probably too late. kcr Dec 2013 #26
See? You are totally DEVOID of compassion. loudsue Dec 2013 #54
I'm devoid of compassion? kcr Dec 2013 #56
You, too, are going to die, kcr. Me, you, her. Every single person. loudsue Dec 2013 #57
Wow. She's a child. kcr Dec 2013 #58
There IS a reason.....she chose it! She would rather die HER way than YOUR way. loudsue Dec 2013 #60
It doesn't matter if she chose it. She's a child. kcr Dec 2013 #62
WTF??... SidDithers Dec 2013 #77
I consider it, at this point, a rescue mission. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #81
Her medical records haven't been released so all this is speculation. n/t pnwmom Dec 2013 #37
I guess strictly speaking then, a good chunk of what we talk about on DU is speculation. kcr Dec 2013 #40
She has cancer. The question is whether, in her case, pnwmom Dec 2013 #45
But they are. kcr Dec 2013 #59
But why criticize these parents when we don't know about her particular risks? n/t pnwmom Dec 2013 #70
Why are you pretending that these criticisms are coming out of nowhere? kcr Dec 2013 #71
Because the court oppointed guardian said so. Because her doctors said so. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #23
Science says that this barbaric treatment is right for this specific girl? loudsue Dec 2013 #39
No, her doctors, medical guardian and the court said the treatment is right, Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #50
Doctors told my father to have chemo. It's what they do, pnwmom Dec 2013 #41
And Steve Jobs would be alive today if he didn't subscribe to goofy new age BS that you tout. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #43
He would have been alive today? He had pancreatic cancer, which pnwmom Dec 2013 #49
LOL. I'm gonna let this one hang out there a while for YOUR ignorance flaps in the breeze. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #53
He had an islet cell tumor of the pancreas, which was diagnosed nine years pnwmom Dec 2013 #64
You are getting closer. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #65
According to the NIH, if the tumor has spread, chemo is unlikely to cure. pnwmom Dec 2013 #68
He had a PNET - Pancreatic Neuro Endocrine Tumor. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #78
You are assuming it hadn't spread before it was seen on the scan. pnwmom Dec 2013 #84
LOL. You just heard of this like 10 minutes ago and now you are a google expert. LOL Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #87
No, actually, my father's mother died of pancreatic cancer, so it's always pnwmom Dec 2013 #89
Again, you are conflating Adenocarcinoma with PNET. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #104
As I told you, I don't know what kind my grandmother had. pnwmom Dec 2013 #105
Yeah, I know about the bad kind. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #106
Wow. That must have been terrifying for his mother. pnwmom Dec 2013 #108
I'm thinking some details were left out there n/t kcr Dec 2013 #67
Here's a link to the NIH. pnwmom Dec 2013 #69
Yes, but if they're caught early and treated with surgery prognosis is good kcr Dec 2013 #72
It's not "good." It's better than the more common form. pnwmom Dec 2013 #73
I didn't say it was "good" kcr Dec 2013 #74
Yes you did. You said, pnwmom Dec 2013 #75
Oh, that's the good you were referring to. kcr Dec 2013 #76
You are wrong when saying good. The prognosis is excellent. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #80
Yep. It's very sad. kcr Dec 2013 #83
There were people in the PNET community that were none too thrilled with Jobs. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #85
I will say that once things are...over, the parents need to be charged with manslaughter... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #27
With an 85% chance of beating it with treatment I think she should get the treatment and the parents hrmjustin Dec 2013 #51
People here hate Sid and the Recs and posts prove it. joshcryer Dec 2013 #110
Criminal dumbarse parents. idwiyo Dec 2013 #111
Agreed...nt SidDithers Dec 2013 #112
I know first hand how brutal chemo can be. I wished few times I was dead while going through it. idwiyo Dec 2013 #113
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