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jwirr

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34. Even if you are correct about ACA you are forgetting history. Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 11:52 AM

Dec 2013

and most other large federal government programs started out with problems - this one is no different.

It was designed to stop the high cost of medical care in the US. You are right about single payer. It is the next step in correcting this program but we can never do it as long as we have the rethugs blasting every change we make. In the meantime we have added many people to health care insurance. A plan that Harry Truman wanted to implement. Finally we are just about there.

It all started with HST's wish for universal health care. We started with smaller state health programs. Medicaid is those state programs federalized. Medicare was the next step and now we have ACA. This is a process not a final act. I and my family are supporting it. If you do not want to I guess you will find out what happens to those who do not want it but remember one thing - you are now siding with the rethugs. They have never wanted government health care.

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So, what happens if you are not [View all] madmom Dec 2013 OP

The black helicopters come and take HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #1

You aren't insured starting in Jan -That's all. JimDandy Dec 2013 #2

Let them try to fine me. PowerToThePeople Dec 2013 #5

Umm, ookay... I think post 1 was meant for you. n/t JimDandy Dec 2013 #9

will they fine you or not? PowerToThePeople Dec 2013 #10

Don't worry, Uncle Sam will put a lien on your body parts. HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Dec 2013 #51

Yes, I agree, I've looked at the costs for bronze plans for 60 year olds in WI HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #53

Won't they just take it Tien1985 Dec 2013 #13

I have insurance, so no, they won't fine me, JimDandy Dec 2013 #15

Even if you are correct about ACA you are forgetting history. Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare jwirr Dec 2013 #34

There are hardship exemptions Motown_Johnny Dec 2013 #22

Actually... 2naSalit Dec 2013 #59

I had read (on this board) PowerToThePeople Dec 2013 #60

I saw it on 2naSalit Dec 2013 #61

Will Canada accept you as a legal immigrant? treestar Dec 2013 #14

I do not have enough money to make that move PowerToThePeople Dec 2013 #16

You lose points at age 49 treestar Dec 2013 #20

Make sure here if you're going to make a plan NoOneMan Dec 2013 #40

What result did you get while applying on the ACA website? geek tragedy Dec 2013 #41

See here PowerToThePeople Dec 2013 #42

Don't let the border hit you on the butt as you leave. MineralMan Dec 2013 #52

FU PowerToThePeople Dec 2013 #54

Nice. MineralMan Dec 2013 #55

FU is the perfect response to your PowerToThePeople Dec 2013 #58

Well, here's a breakdown of Canadian taxes paid by a typical person: MineralMan Dec 2013 #63

I see no source link. PowerToThePeople Dec 2013 #64

On january first you wont have insurance etherealtruth Dec 2013 #3

i need help with the exchange.... please, someone! w100jmi Dec 2013 #4

Call the number found here. Its the official ACA phone number. JoePhilly Dec 2013 #6

. w100jmi Dec 2013 #11

Sounds like you need to resolve the issue of your wife's JoePhilly Dec 2013 #18

i dont know w100jmi Dec 2013 #37

Its going to cost your child. You can't help everyone. JoePhilly Dec 2013 #39

That is the issue! w100jmi Dec 2013 #44

Wow does this sound familiar. JoePhilly Dec 2013 #47

Are you really saying kick out the disabled 69 yr old mother so they can have affordable health insu uppityperson Dec 2013 #43

Since I didn't say that, the answer obviously, is "No". JoePhilly Dec 2013 #45

re w100jmi Dec 2013 #46

Thank younfor clarifying and my apologies for being so abrupt. uppityperson Dec 2013 #50

If the insurance is more than 8% of your income, you're eligible for an exemption. winter is coming Dec 2013 #36

It sounds like you're one of those families ... surrealAmerican Dec 2013 #8

If your employer offers insurance you can't sign up on the exchange. Motown_Johnny Dec 2013 #23

employer w100jmi Dec 2013 #25

How many people do they employ? Motown_Johnny Dec 2013 #26

employ w100jmi Dec 2013 #27

Then you can't use the exchange. Motown_Johnny Dec 2013 #28

not what i want to hear, but thank you. w100jmi Dec 2013 #29

We need a single payer plan Motown_Johnny Dec 2013 #30

You know PowerToThePeople Dec 2013 #31

boss w100jmi Dec 2013 #33

I have no response PowerToThePeople Dec 2013 #35

You have never asked for a raise? Motown_Johnny Dec 2013 #57

boss w100jmi Dec 2013 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author w100jmi Dec 2013 #62

Off to the FEMA camps where the Death Panel will determine your fate. JoePhilly Dec 2013 #7

...in Benghazi Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #17

lol JoePhilly Dec 2013 #19

:) Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #21

My estimated Silver premium is $396/month after 51$ subsidy PowerToThePeople Dec 2013 #24

Yes, the insurance premiums have stolen any possible JimDandy Dec 2013 #48

You won't get insurance starting on January 1, but there's no penalty yet. winter is coming Dec 2013 #38

After reading this whole thread, and others like it, ConcernedCanuk Dec 2013 #49

THEY SEND YOU OFF TO A CAMP AND CUT OFF YOUR HEAD WHEN YOU DIE! haele Dec 2013 #56

You can use the Community Health Centers instead. grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #65